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post #31 of 50

Bootgloves work well for me. Key is to put them on when the shell is toasty warm.
 

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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post

I have boot gloves and to be honest they did very little for me....so far not worth the added inconvenience.   But next chance I get I will try them again and slip a heat pad under them to see if it makes any difference.

post #32 of 50

I'm going through this battle too. lange 140 flex boots with thin lace-up liners. They fit me very nicely (but snug) and I don't have poor circulation or sweaty feet. The issue is a race shell and thin liner, I can feel the cold conducting inwards such that after three runs I have warm toes but cold boots. Shortly after I have cold toes.

So fitted hotronics and that's great. Now I can feel a battle going on down there as the heat is attempting to keep the cold at bay, the hotronics can only do so much. So I too wonder if I can give them a bit of a helping hand by adding foil under and around the toe box to reflect the cold out and the warm in.

Ahh the search for the perfect boot....continues.

post #33 of 50

I use 150 race plug boots.   Plastic is thick and hard, liner is thin leather lace up, I cannot wear anything but super thin socks, but the boot fit is perfect.   When I tried to ski with thicker socks, at the top of the mountain I had to pry my boots off as it felt like my feet were in a medieval torture device, then ski down with no socks (getting my boots back on was a nightmare, nearly amputated a finger).  

 

Putting a chemical warmer under or above also made for unbearable skiing as well as the discomfort of having something in there.   Since I have had much work done to the boots just fitting something inside is not really an option unless I want to go through more refitting, aka even more $$$ and more time and more inconvenience, boot fitter is 1.5hrs away.   I decided to line my inner soles with foil.   Used heavy-duty aluminum foil, sprayed adhesive under the sole and on the foil let it tack and glued them together trimmed and had a perfect professional looking item.   On the slopes, made no difference feet got just as cold.  The boot gloves as I mentioned did little too.  So I think some very thin electronic heating might be my only salvation.....the more I think of the cayenne pepper, while it might work, the chances of getting pepper in regions where it does not belong, eyes, nose, and more private areas, seems to be too risky and would really ruin a ski day more so than cold feet.

post #34 of 50

Skiing in -23 to -30 yesterday and everyday this weekend. I have tight fitting boots FullTilt Fonflicts 120. My doughter wears tie up 130 World Cup Rossi race plugs. We both stay toasty warm duct taping hand warmers accross the toes. If your boots fit that tight then maybe if you duct taped the hand warmers on the out side of your boot might help ?

 

    I dont think your boots should be uncomfortablely tight for performance fit? My doughters 130flex Lace up race plugs are very snug fitting and she prefers wearing them over her rec boots for comfort. They are noticably colder though.  You may have gone a 1/2 size to small by the sounds of it to me. Most Racers on the team i know never complain to the point where they need a thinner sock for comfort. That was the fix years ago but not today as far as I can tell. I had boot like that before I hated not being comfortable. Now I have racer persition with comfort thaks to Intuition liners.

 

  Just thinking out load.

post #35 of 50
Thread Starter 

Checking back in here, the liners stretched out now so all I have to do is more grinding and they will fit great...but there is no room inside for anything beyond my foot, I'm surprised on how "foot shaped" the boot is.  The liners are still pretty darn cold.

post #36 of 50


 

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Fun stuff this majortato wink.gif:

  

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Originally Posted by majortato View Post

 

1.  There is not such thing as cold... 

 

2.  ...Note that it seems in general, men's feet sweat more than women's feet.  At least that's my observation

 

3.  ...Also, it depends on how you ski...if you're intermediate level and ski very passively, then you probably won't sweat much.  If you are skiing at a higher level and skiing very aggressively and making high speed carved turns and experiencing lots of G-forces, then you're much more likely to sweat.


 

  1. That fails
  2. How many feet have you examined?  eek.gif  While women have more sweat glands than men (head to toe)…there are too many factors involved between m/f to discuss volume of sweat as well as the type sweat of produce by the differing glands here. 
  3. LOL.  No kidding…really?  The harder we work the more we sweat?! rolleyes.gif

 

Regardless I would suffice to say you are a poor candidate for Hotronic or similar product operating it as you do.  Seek a better fix for your wet feet.

 

Stay warm and dry biggrin.gif  


 

 

1.  read the rest of the sentence.  If you still don't get it, my guess is you failed science in school

 

I started using hotronic the way I explained.  It has helped keep my feet warmer.  How exactly is it that I'm a poor candidate?  Obviously it works....you can't argue this point.

 

A lot also has to do with what type of boots people are in.  I think people will agree with me that most people ride in boots way too big for them.  The bigger the boot, the warmer it is.  I used to be in boots too big for me...I never had cold feet issues even in ridiculously cold weather.  Now I'm running on race plug boots that cut off quite a bit of circulation.  Keeping feet warm is definitely a challenge.
 

post #37 of 50

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Originally Posted by majortato View Post

I started using hotronic the way I explained.  It has helped keep my feet warmer.  How exactly is it that I'm a poor candidate?  Obviously it works....you can't argue this point.

 

LOL.  rolleyes.gif  I can only surmise that if you ski like you use the Hotronic product then it has to be a serendipitous calamity.  You’re no Ted Ligety in those new found plugs…go back to oversized boots and save yourself wink.gif biggrin.gif


 

post #38 of 50

It's almost this simple, either you are going to get cold toes or you are fortunately "immune" to this annoying condition. I unfortunately, am cursed with the cold toes condition. I have tried almost all of the aforementioned  recommendations. Hotronics have delivered the best results.

 

Everything else by comparison has been pretty marginal. The taped on neoprene in the toe box does intrigue me.

post #39 of 50
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Originally Posted by majortato View Post

I started using hotronic the way I explained.  It has helped keep my feet warmer.  How exactly is it that I'm a poor candidate?  Obviously it works....you can't argue this point.

 

LOL.  rolleyes.gif  I can only surmise that if you ski like you use the Hotronic product then it has to be a serendipitous calamity.  You’re no Ted Ligety in those new found plugs…go back to oversized boots and save yourself wink.gif biggrin.gif


 

 

Ski like I use Hotronics?  You mean use the product in a way that makes sense for me and works great for me to achieve the final result that it was designed for?  So my skiing is....?  I don't get your analogy...perhaps science is not the only course you need to brush up on. 

 

I don't get why you're so against my use of the product.  I'm pretty sure if I call up Hotronics customer service, they're not gonna tell me to stop using their product because I'm "using it wrong".  It works for me...and it might work for others like me...get over yourself.  Not everyone is just like you and thinks just like you. 

 

Seriously, for someone who looks like they're mature (based on profile pic), you sure act like a little kid with the constant childish bashing.  Why is it that you've avoided all my actual discussion points?  Why do I need to be Ted Ligety to use plug boots?  I desire the control and feedback it provides when skiing.  If you don't understand this point, perhaps it is you that need to step up your skiing ability.  Maybe you should get out of your oversized boots and learn to control your skis. roflmao.gif

post #40 of 50

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Originally Posted by majortato View Post

I'm pretty sure if I call up Hotronics customer service, they're not gonna tell me to stop using their product because I'm "using it wrong". 

I called Hotronic support for you.  They suggested attaching the wafers to either side of you head as a better use of their product followed by depressing the power buttons to three and then pull a stocking cap down tightly well past your eyes.  This will serve multiple purposes for you including the fact it’ll remind you that you’re taking yourself way too seriously here.  Relax.  Ratchet back.  Your buttons are too easy to push.  I don’t give a hoot about the way you use the product but rather have had a hoot reading your angst trying to get the last word in defending something so inane.  Oh…and stop starring at my picture wink.gif  


 

roundturns summed this thread up nicely with his post.  Let’s try it again and see if you can let it go at that.  

 

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It's almost this simple, either you are going to get cold toes or you are fortunately "immune" to this annoying condition. I unfortunately, am cursed with the cold toes condition. I have tried almost all of the aforementioned  recommendations. Hotronics have delivered the best results.

 

Everything else by comparison has been pretty marginal. The taped on neoprene in the toe box does intrigue me.





 

post #41 of 50
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post

 

I called Hotronic support for you.  They suggested attaching the wafers to either side of you head as a better use of their product followed by depressing the power buttons to three and then pull a stocking cap down tightly well past your eyes.  This will serve multiple purposes for you including the fact it’ll remind you that you’re taking yourself way too seriously here. 



 

 

You must know this from experience.

post #42 of 50
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Fun stuff this majortato wink.gif:

  

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Originally Posted by majortato View Post

 

1.  There is not such thing as cold... 

 

2.  ...Note that it seems in general, men's feet sweat more than women's feet.  At least that's my observation

 

3.  ...Also, it depends on how you ski...if you're intermediate level and ski very passively, then you probably won't sweat much.  If you are skiing at a higher level and skiing very aggressively and making high speed carved turns and experiencing lots of G-forces, then you're much more likely to sweat.


 

  1. That fails
  2. How many feet have you examined?  eek.gif  While women have more sweat glands than men (head to toe)…there are too many factors involved between m/f to discuss volume of sweat as well as the type sweat of produce by the differing glands here. 
  3. LOL.  No kidding…really?  The harder we work the more we sweat?! rolleyes.gif

 

Regardless I would suffice to say you are a poor candidate for Hotronic or similar product operating it as you do.  Seek a better fix for your wet feet.

 

Stay warm and dry biggrin.gif  


 


Where do you get the information regarding women have more sweat glands than men? As for sweat glands, there are only two types apocrine and eccrine. It doesn't take 4 years of medical school to figure this out -- you can simply wiki it. I find your comments very offensive as well. This poster was merely stating his experience and you go on and on attacking him.

 

As well, I have used hot-tronics because of cold feet using atomic cs 140, and I assure you I look better than richie-rich, no offense richie.. If you are so blessed with warm feet, then don't harass us who aren't. Likely, your feet would be cold in properly fitting boots in colder weather as well. We aren't all so lucky to be skiing in colorado all the time.  Do you wear arm warmers when you go out on rides in the 50s F? I know plenty of people around here who are wearing short sleeve jerseys. This is because they are used to it and perhaps are more immune to the cold.

 

They never tell me my own personal experiences with my arm warmers keeping my core warmer or my arms warmer is incorrect or not scientific. You really need to take a chill pill.

 

 

post #43 of 50

Cold feet solutions!

 

You must think heat exchange system!

 

Do not focus just on feet!

 

Let me explain.

 

Your feet are kept warm because warm blood flows to the feet! Thus you must do all possible to allow this warm blood to flow!

 

First ;

DO NOT tighten the first top buckle too much! I use a second power strap to get better lateral leverage from boots! This strap goes around just liner and not ski boot shell!

Never but never buckle boots to max in the chalet! Do one or two runs with soft buckles,,,,it will make you a better skier, increase blood flow to toes and make you learn to feel ski interact with slope! Then after two easy relaxed runs progressively increase buckle pressure!

 

That inner laced liner,,again do not over torque those laces! Many men skiers think that they will ski better if boots are VICE like! Not so!

 

Buy a boot warmer at a hunting sports store,,,,the very best units are for hunters and are cheap! By heating your boots for two hours at home you are in essence warming the padding inside the boots which will stay warm for at least 3-4 hours in -30c weather! Mine has a digital timer and starts at a given time by itself!

 

Use Dr, Scholl foot powder! You will understand why once you use it!

 

Finally why buy a racing boot????? The performance increase you get ( which you might not need),,,comes at a price! Ever notice what racers do onec the cross finishing line?  Yes unbuckle their boots!!!!! ( and they just race for 2-4 minutes)!!!

 

Yes all those other solutions will help, but for a short period,,,,

 

Respectfully,

Vist

post #44 of 50

I read once to wrap the shell footbed in a reflective material (foil-shiny side out?)  The purpose being that it would reflect cold back down and the heat from your liner back up. Havent tried it (one of those with a built in body heater....My body cant wait to get to true cold!) Also to get a thin packing material tween your liner and footbed to help insulate from cold. Worth a try...at least its not $100 cures...these sound like they wont cost hardly anything to try.

post #45 of 50


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Originally Posted by shoal007 View Post

Where do you get the information ... -- you can simply wiki it. 

 

 

First; you need to move out of majortato’s basement.  Second; get back to school as by your example using Wiki to answer questions is a poor substitute for knowledge wink.gif    

 

Once you've got that done bring your ex-landlord and those cold feet out to Colorado and we'll warm them up showing you both some nice haunts to ski out here. 

 

xxoo biggrin.gif   



 

post #46 of 50
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Originally Posted by shoal007 View Post

Where do you get the information ... -- you can simply wiki it. 

 

 

First; you need to move out of majortato’s basement.  Second; get back to school as by your example using Wiki to answer questions is a poor substitute for knowledge wink.gif    

 

Once you've got that done bring your ex-landlord and those cold feet out to Colorado and we'll warm them up showing you both some nice haunts to ski out here. 

 

xxoo biggrin.gif   



 



I love how every time someone points out that you are wrong and misinformed, you just ignore the actual topic and proceed to insult people.  Shoal is merely pointing out that if you don't understand something, you can wiki it rather than spew out the nonsense you've done so over and over again.  The ignorance that has come from your posts is laughable.  Also, your tone is absurdly condescending.  Why don't you check that ego at the door next time you speak.  Seriously, you need a few of the following:

 

1. Some education - science, english, and biology at minimum

2. Some manners/maturity

3. A better profile pic...I'm sorry I looked at it.  It can't be un-seen.  =(

post #47 of 50

Don,

 

When i made a reference to medical school - i've been there. I was simply pointing out your "knowledge" can merely be surpassed with wiki. Why don't you go back to TGR and get trashed some more. I do enjoy looking at those threads.

post #48 of 50

First, let me say I love a good internet spat.  Keep it coming.

 

 

Now back to our regular programming.   I have 12 year old, not very aggressive or tight boots.  My feet get cold when its 30 out.  Yes, my feet sweat (I will try the powder trick), I have terrible circulation (need to make sure feet and boots are warm prior to hitting the slopes) and probably for a cheap fix I will try the heat warmers/duck tape trick (if you can't duck it, f' it).  Thanks for the insights.

 

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Just googled the toe warmers.  for a $1/day this looks like the solution for me.  I have enough room for either the foot warmers or toe warmers and they are cheap off the internet.

post #49 of 50
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Originally Posted by envgeo View Post

First, let me say I love a good internet spat.  Keep it coming.

 

 

Now back to our regular programming.   I have 12 year old, not very aggressive or tight boots.  My feet get cold when its 30 out.  Yes, my feet sweat (I will try the powder trick), I have terrible circulation (need to make sure feet and boots are warm prior to hitting the slopes) and probably for a cheap fix I will try the heat warmers/duck tape trick (if you can't duck it, f' it).  Thanks for the insights.

 

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Just googled the toe warmers.  for a $1/day this looks like the solution for me.  I have enough room for either the foot warmers or toe warmers and they are cheap off the internet.


you have room inside your boots for the warmers?  I'm not sure if the warmers you're referring to is what I'm used to, but they take up quite a bit of room.  Is it possible your boots are actually too big and you end up over tightening the cuff area which causes a loss of circulation to the feet?

post #50 of 50

Wow...Someone mentioned Intuition liners on page one. But I guess that too easy for this crowd.

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