Originally Posted by DonDenver
Originally Posted by majortato
...I find the key is to not start the hotronics until a few runs in. Otherwise my feet start sweating too early and then they get really cold and nothing helps.
For you perhaps but for the majority of those folks who require a product like Hotrontic (for example my wife) I would highly advise against this suggestion.
Hotronic M4 or similar technology is not acting as a blast furnace against your feet but rather a source for cold to target rather than your foot allowing you to maintain your best blood circulation and s/b activated immediately once booting up. The idea is to keep your feet comfortable at the extremity point with the poorest circulation in the first place and therefore not lose ground (so to speak) as you step out on the cold snow.
Insure the heating element wafer is properly installed and there are no wiring kinks from wafer to battery pack. With a problem like sweaty feet I highly doubt the Hotronic product is the tipping point but rather there are other primary issues to consider.
It may just depend from person to person..but realize that "cold" doesn't target anything. There is not such thing as cold...only a lack of heat. Hotronics only provides an area under the toes where heat will less likely escape from your feet, and only will escape from the front or top of the toes.
When I first got hotronics, I turned the setting to 1 before I started skiing. The temps outside was probably in the mid 20's. Prior to hotronics, I would actually be fine in those temps. My feet would get cold after a few hours, but in general not too painful. To my surprise, after only an hour of skiing, toes started getting cold. I bumped it up to 2 and it kept me going for another 30 min before I had to bump it to 3....soon after, I felt like I need to bring it to 4 to give me that boost of heat.
I quickly realized this was the same problem I had years ago with my hands. I thought I needed warmer gloves..it turns out I needed thinner gloves. My hands would get too hot after the first few runs and sweat a lot. Once the hands got cold, it's all over.
So the next time I went out, it was frigid...single digits with a windchill of -15 or worse. I didn't turn on my hotronics until 2 runs in. After my feet started getting slightly cold, I bumped it up a notch. I was fine at setting 1 for a long time. Then I put it up to setting 2 and didn't really need to goto 3 even after over 2 hrs in the super cold temps.
I tried the same thing again the next time I was out. The temps were low teens. Same thing as the previous time, I was perfectly fine.
My friend who has hotronics has always turned his on right away. Since getting them, I swear he's complained about cold feet a lot earlier than he used to. Recently, he realized he might be sweating too early as well and is planning to try not turning them on until after a few runs.
I guess each person will just need to experiment and see for themselves what works best. Note that it seems in general, men's feet sweat more than women's feet. At least that's my observation. Also, it depends on how you ski...if you're intermediate level and ski very passively, then you probably won't sweat much. If you are skiing at a higher level and skiing very aggressively and making high speed carved turns and experiencing lots of G-forces, then you're much more likely to sweat.