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whatsup everyone. here's the deal: i started skiing this season but i've been skiing alot and am better than lots of my friends that have been skiing since they were 3. i leased skis for this season, but am planning on buying used ones eventually (im 16, dont have much cash). My friend is selling his used public enemies with bindings for 120, which is a pretty good deal i think. Im not sure what year they are, they are red with an alcatraz graphic on them. The type of skiing i do mostly is in the trees, i ski in VT but will be going out to mammoth in february. Anyway my main question is that these skis are only 159, and im 5'11 158lbs. Im not sure if the shortness will simply be more fun and maneuverable in the trees, or if it will be too unstable. i have ridden these skis but only on one green groomer run, and they seemed fine but i never really took them fast.

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Welcome to the World of Skiing, hopefully you stay a while.  I'm guessing that you're quite athletic given that you are only 160 lbs and 5'11", and also that you seem to be picking up skiing very fast.

Before I get to answering your question, I would ask what length are the skis you are currently on.  Regardless of what length they are, these 159 PEs seem too short for you.  I am your height and quite a lot heavier, although I think I was around your specs at 16.  I bought a pair of 168s and have used them from my 160 lbs and 16 yr old body all the way up to my current 210 lbs and 26 yr old body.  I am currently looking at a new set and will likely go up to 170-175 range.  I ski mostly bumps and trees and as such know the importance of quick maneuvers and responsiveness.  I think you would find these 159s to be too short for your everyday ski.

 

If you truly are becoming a capable skier, I would expect you to enjoy skis in the 165-170 range a lot more and they would also be a lot more versatile than the 159 PEs.  1 final thing to note, the length is but 1 aspect of the right ski for you...a lot of other factors will determine good matches.

post #3 of 10
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thanks greendiamonds that was a very informative post. the skis the rental shop guys gave me are volkl ac unlimited at 163. however these are not twin tips so the effective edge is probly quite a bit longer than  the PEs. then  again, i have been skiing as fast as i can and constantly pushing the limits and havent really experienced any instability, while i have experienced some sluggishness in the trees. thats probably just my inexperience though and also maybe because these are carving skis so they have alot of edge grip, making them harder to whip around at slower speeds. but please correct me if im wrong i dont know too much about this great sport

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I'm sure you're aware of just how different those two skis are, so length aside, they will likely respond very differently in many situations.  I don't have much experience with park/twin-tip skis so I'll let someone else comment on that aspect, but I will mention something else relevant about tree skis...they generally don't stay shiny very long.  What I mean by that is if you are going to spent a significant amount of time in the trees (and quite possibly rocks), then don't expect to buy a long-term ski.  That being said, I know a lot of people who have a 'Spring/Rock/Tree" ski that they only use on very marginal or spring days where they could very likely damage their skis.  You mentioned being 16 and not having a ton of cash to spend on skis so that's why I thought a more all-around ski would work better for you.  I'd wait to see what other people are saying, but I personally wouldn't ski on something that short.  You mentioned it being a friend who has them, why not try them out a little more then decide if they're worth the money for the type of skiing you will do over the next year or so.  Alternatively, try eBay for a slightly longer set of sticks.  Good luck.

post #5 of 10

First take $20 of that money and invest in a dictionary, then buy skis.

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i couldn't care less about my spelling on the internet if that is what you're referring to.

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i couldn't care less about my spelling on the internet if that is what you're referring to.



I'm there with ya....its the internet...not English 101 writing class.

As for whats been said...I think they'll be too short and you should invest the $120 into new ski's...that would make you halfway there or there-a-bouts. Your sixteen so your legally able to get a job so....welcome to the world and having to start paying for your own toys! 

post #8 of 10

Welcome to Epicski.

 

I think the P/E is a great all mountain ski, perfect for VT and what you describe makes you smile on the mountain.....

 

159 is a bit short for you IMHO but on the other hand you are just getting started, if you liked em when you demo'd $120 isn't bad. Have the bindings checked and set properly to your boots (the very most important part of your ski gear  BTW) and have fun. Even at 159, they should be better than rentals.

 

Buy 'em, ski 'em, get better, sell 'em when you reach the limits of the ski and they start holding you back. Get something longer that you like even more when you have more dough or keep 'em as park or rock skis. 

 

Re the above spelling post, just use the space bar a little bit, you're all good.

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Agree with the last two posts.  Just wanted to clarify the one line where he mentions the most important piece of equipment = BOOTS!  just wanted to make sure you didn't think it was bindings, although having them reset for you is also very important.
 

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159 is a bit short for you IMHO but on the other hand you are just getting started, if you liked em when you demo'd $120 isn't bad. Have the bindings checked and set properly to your boots (the very most important part of your ski gear  BTW) and have fun. Even at 159, they should be better than rentals.

 

Good luck with whatever you decide.

post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 

thank you all for your helpful and informative posts. i think i will be waiting until the end of this season when there are sales and i have a little more money saved up to buy skis. I figure i can ski on what i have for now and work on my skills for this season

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