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Rossi 7S VS. 4G? Trip down memory lane...

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OK. So nobody laugh too hard. But I was in the Goodwill yesterday nosing around and saw a really decent 201cm pair of the old war horse Rossi 7S kevlars, comeplete with Marker M51-Ti bindings, everything in really good shape. They were only $14.50. I couldn't resist, even though I realize they are old tech, but ya still gotta respect them. I skied for years on a pair of 201cm 4G's and loved they way they'd haul ass down the hill and practically LEAP from turn to turn, like no other ski I had before or since. Those things were thoroughbreds, no two ways about it, and in fact I still have them, tho I haven't clicked into 'em for almost 15 years now, having fallen in love with the move evolved gear since. I rode the 4G's with Solly 997 Driver Equipe bindings, mounted with riser plates for more leverage, and loved them. But boy oh boy did they blow in bumps LOL Slap 'em onto a steep high speed cruiser and let 'em run though, and hold on - what a blast. I remember skiing Steamboat with them, on a really steep black groomer called Rolex (I think) and practically running over my friends LOL  What a joy ride they were.

 

OK, so back to my new acquisitions, the 7S kev's. The M51-Ti's were even better bindings than the Solly's on the 4G's, and in fact I ski them on my default pair of ski's I've ASLO skied on for years, a 188cm pair of K2 Three's, which although easier and more fun to ski than the 4G's, don't spring from turn to turn like the 4G's did. So my question is this - my understanding of the 7S is that they were World Cup slalom skis, as opposed to the 4G's being WC GS skis. Can you guys confirm that? And as such, they should be turnier than the 4G's, yeah mon? Their job was to turn with tighter radii and at lower speeds than the 4G's, which were essentially built to haul ass and carve some big-radius mondo turns across the fall line at mach 9. I'm thinking I'll actually stomp into them (the 7S's) and turn 'em loose for some retro fun, and just want to know what to expect. Anyone out there ever rocked these things? And info would be appreciated - thanks!

 

"There are no friends on powder days" - Friederich Nietzsche, 1897.

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I posted this over in the "More Retro Memories" thread......and yes, S was Slalom, G was Giant Slalom and M was Moguls/Freestyle.

 

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I posted this over in the "More Retro Memories" thread......and yes, S was Slalom, G was Giant Slalom and M was Moguls/Freestyle.

 

And SM stood for Sadomasochist. Anyone that tried to ski them in moguls enjoyed pain.
 

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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

I posted this over in the "More Retro Memories" thread......and yes, S was Slalom, G was Giant Slalom and M was Moguls/Freestyle.

 

And SM stood for Sadomasochist. Anyone that tried to ski them in moguls enjoyed pain.
 

 

The SM was a GS ski.....if you wanted to play in the bumps you should've been on the CMV

 

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Edited by Rossi Smash - 1/9/11 at 12:29pm
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If they are the final generation yellow 7S you scored....fabulous skis and 201 is the real sweet spot with that design....The teal version in Rossi's post was not an enjoyable ski for recreational skiing, twitchy and wouldn't run in big arcs.....I much preferred the 200 4SK and had close to a dozen pair during my PSIA years, I used to pro form 2 pair a season. Still have a near mint pair in the basement with a gorgeous set of Sal 957 Equipe bindings....I'll try to get a couple pics up if interested. I wouldn't pay anything for a pair of the teal/silver 7SK's personally but if that is what you have YMMV if course. The black ones were better IMHO but still not close to the final version which was a fantastic all mountain cruiser.

 

If I saw a pair of the last generation yellow 7S (2 versions of those too, the latter is the best) I would buy them. I wish I had kept mine, gave em to my son and he destroyed them.....

 

I also owned the 7G in both 201 and 208.....the purple people eaters. One word applies....fffffast.

 

Threw out about a dozen high end straight skis a couple years ago, never got around to making those ski adirondack chairs....tho I had the blueprints.  

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Your not thinking of the 9S, are you?

 

 

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Nope tho the last gen 7sk looked a lot like that......very similar graphics.

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I'm not totally sure which gen these are, but I would guess one of the last two - they are eye-hurtingly yellow, with black plastic gate deflectors on the tips. I swiped a couple of pix from eBay to show what they look like, although the ones in these pix don't have the black plastic tips like my "new" sticks do. And yes, Rio - trying to manhandle the 4G's in the bumps was like trying to park a Lincoln in a Wal-Mart lot on Christmas Eve. Without brakes. Or steering. "Pain" is the right word, although I can't say I liked it.

 

So am I to undertsand correctly that the "7" generation was an evolution of the "4" gen? I.E., 4G's gave way to 7G's? My 4G's were (and still are) purple, BTW. And pardon my ignance, but what is YMMV?

 

So yesterday I'm up at Ski Bluewood, this wee little ski area here in SE Washington State, with my buddy John, and we enjoyed some really great powder - knee deep in places, and on a couple of occasions thigh-deep (only in areas which weren't lift-served, only leg-served). It was sooooooo sweet, although I looked pretty ugly. But screw it - I loved it. Never broke out the retro planx, but rocked the nearly retro K2's instead.  And I did manage to spot a few pairs of rear-entries in the lift line. If ONLY I had kept those old SX-80's....     .not.

 

 

Say, anyone know anything about Fischer RX-7's? Or maybe they're RX-8's. I don't remember - I bought them from a friend for my daughter a few years ago but she didn't like them and has stopped skiing, so I'm thinking about remouting the bindings to fit my boots and running them to see how I like them. Any experience on these, anyone?

 

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post #9 of 17

Those are the next to last 7SK....excellent all mountain cruiser.

 

I threw a couple pair of those away a couple of years ago....not because they weren't good skis, because I had 30 pair of skis in the basement.

 

They were pretty beat too, the only pair of the lot I kept was the above mentioned 200 4SK's - those I plan on keeping forever.

 

I had no time to build the adirondack chairs I had planned for the skis. I did save a lot of the bindings and made quite a lot of money selling those on e bay.

Had a bunch of Look Z turntables and a lot of Solly equipe racing bindings still pretty popular with the do it yourself crowd despite lack of indemnification.

 

I am down to my 20 year low ski quiver.... 2 pair of K2 fours 188/183, 170 Head i Supershapes and 180 Volkl Exposivs. It looks pretty good in the basement at the moment.


Edited by hrstrat57 - 1/11/11 at 11:54am
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RX 8 is very length dependent (as are most skis)

 

I owned the 175(just put those in consignment for $100 at LSS) and 170 and those ski'd very differently, I prefered the 175.

 

Ski'd the 165 extensively, a completely different ski than the other 2.

 

Always wanted to try the 180 but could never find a pair cheap.

 

RX 8 a great ski, but I have moved on to i Supershape which blows it away frankly IMHO.


Edited by hrstrat57 - 1/11/11 at 11:59am
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Never skied the 7S but I had a pair of 201 4Gs back in the day (I bought 'em in '92 and took the bindings -- Marker M48 Titaniums -- off in '99 to transfer to my Atomic 9.22s). I loved those skis on groomers -- I bought them when I lived on the East Coast and I remember feeling like I was railing the hard, steep runs out there on them. They were the first skis I bought

 

Moved to the Pacific Northwest and they were... challenging in the cruddy & heavy conditions here. First time I skied out here was at Baker over Thanksgiving of '93 -- lots of deep, heavy ungroomed snow; conditions I knew nothing about from the northeast. If I was a better skier I might've been able to handle them better but (eventually) switching to the Atomics was a revelation.

 

Gave them to Salvation Army a while ago when I moved and kinda regret it now.

 

Thanks for the pics & reminisces!

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Man those bring back memories.  I skied a pair of those in Killington in 1993 when they had a Rossi demo center there.  It was a new for 1994 design.  I thought they had the plastic tips on them though.

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I have a pair right here right now, real new rarely skiied, with black tips, 205's and they need to find a home.

 

post #14 of 17
I still have my 7S's in the basement. Very nice ski. Disagree about the 4 series being vastly inferior. Touch softer but also more versatile on everything except ice. Considered a classic for good reason, while the 7 was a bit harder edged - and a harder edger.
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I still have my 7S's in the basement. Very nice ski. Disagree about the 4 series being vastly inferior. Touch softer but also more versatile on everything except ice. Considered a classic for good reason, while the 7 was a bit harder edged - and a harder edger.


Meh, I found the Fischer GS superior at speed to the 4G (though still not in the same league as my SG) and the Dynastar SL better for me than the 7S.at SL speeds and below.

 

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Meh, I found the Fischer GS superior at speed to the 4G (though still not in the same league as my SG) and the Dynastar SL better for me than the 7S.at SL speeds and below.

 

Oh, I'd agree. None of the Rossi rec skis from that period could match up to Fischer's for grip or stability at speed. But I was commenting on a direct comparison between 7 and 4 series, that's all. (And since the 4's and the 7's, which were never remotely close to "WC" level despite the letters on the topsheet, outsold more serious Fischers and Dynastars like 10:1, somebody out there must have preferred their characteristics. It's not always about which rec ski is closer to a race ski's performance, y'realize.) 
 

 

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