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post #1 of 21
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Once again Fernie Alpine Resort, keeps all it's bowls closed with little snow. After a lot of bombing in the morning all bowls remained closed all day. Certainly not the resort I skied a few years ago when a Skier owned it. Anyway if you are looking for fresh tracks after a storm Fernie is not the resort to come to.

post #2 of 21
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Originally Posted by pbertoewrn View Post

Once again Fernie Alpine Resort, keeps all it's bowls closed with little snow. After a lot of bombing in the morning all bowls remained closed all day. Certainly not the resort I skied a few years ago when a Skier owned it. 

You mean before 3 of the 5 bowls were brought in bounds?

 

I skied Fernie in the Snow Valley Days and I remember the Snake Traverse closing on occasion.

 

Anyway, here is today's avalanche bulletin: 

 

http://www.avalanche.ca/cac/bulletins/latest/south-rockies

 

Serious risk, especially with Fernie's tricky topography.

 

 

Honestly, I don't know why you still ski FAR. It seems like all of your posts are just complaints about this one resort. Living in Calgary, you have a lot of options, and most of them are more convenient. If you want to stay away from Banff, Castle and Kicking Horse are good choices.

 

post #3 of 21
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We are waiting for our place to be ready in Revelstoke. We have skied here for over 25 years and yes the terrain is challenging however we have a non skier managing the hill. My posts are just to let folks know that if more then 5 cm fall ALL bowls are closed until a hely is bought in. Powder is not what it was here as it was a few years back.

post #4 of 21

Chances are the "non-skier" is listening to his Patrol director.  That area has a history of slides that can propagate to inbound areas.  The Avy report makes a case for widespread instability from windslabs on old unstable slabs.  It seems the new snow is not so much the problem as the wind that continues to build slabs on the north northeast aspects, which of course coincides with where the skiers are.   Hopefully you guys will see some improvement soon.  good luck.

post #5 of 21

We are in a snowy-windy storm cycle just after the temps have jumped..... Of course they're feeling twitchy on opening the bowls!

 

Patrol want to open everything they can..... but if everybody is not 100% they will keep it shut.

 

 

 

 

p.s. - All of the alpine at Revy is closed also due to avy risk...... you may want to rethink your plans! biggrin.gif

post #6 of 21
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We continue to bomb and bring down the snow over night. I am just informing folks that the days of 5+ cm of snow over night or that fall during the day will result in closing of the bowls. After skiing here for over 25 years, we have had one inbound aval. on Arrow which covered our ski boots. Again this is for information only. As far as Revy, Upper North bowl and hiking up from the top of Stoke were closed until avey work was complete. 

post #7 of 21

FWIW, down in Whitefish, we're 100% open.

post #8 of 21

OP, you are going to find out that too much of Revy's big vertical is too low for season long reliable conditions and the lifts are not set up to maximize upper mountain skiing. Also Mt Mckenzie (Revy) does not get as much snow as other mountains in the area.


Oh yeah, you might also want to know that while the original owner and the current owner may know how to ski, they have no ski industry experience. If they did they would likely not have invested millions in a resort that will likely fail financially.

post #9 of 21
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http://www.skifernie.com/conditions/powderalert/powderalert.html

 

Here is powder alert that was sent out today. The note fails to say that all 3 major bowls are closed, leaving only the bottom (beginner) runs open and a few others off the upper hill. Again my posts are for information only. 

post #10 of 21
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I certainly hope Revy does not fail. The new owners have paid off the total debt last year. A new run has been cut on the upper mountain and a beginner chair will be going in this year. Also my understanding is that the golf course is to begin this year. Further build out will depend on market demand. Summer operations are also to begin this summer. Nelson Lodge was totally booked over the holiday season and close to 100 % over the summer months.    

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I agree that Fernie has a problem with getting stuff open.  Sometimes it is their fault, sometimes they are simply a victim of their geographic setting.  Reading the report, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

post #13 of 21

Just read the report. I'm with mr newfydog on this one. Better safe than sorry.

 

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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post

I agree that Fernie has a problem with getting stuff open.  Sometimes it is their fault, sometimes they are simply a victim of their geographic setting.  Reading the report, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

post #14 of 21

Well, they opened it, Currie Bowl slid, seven people got beat up, one went to hospital.  Hope you weren't in there Pbert!  Been there, done that, it's no fun.

 

http://www.theprovince.com/news/injured+safe+following+Fernie+avalanche/4115465/story.html 

 

 

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/01/15/bc-avalanche-highway.html

 

 

 

 

post #15 of 21

How ironic is that???

post #16 of 21

Fernie Avalanche!!!!

 

Ironic to read all these above posts after  a serious avalanche in Fernie ( just a few hours ago) due to skiers who wanted to be first in the powder! Just a few hours ago a major slide was triggered by skiers who slipped into a closed bowl due to,,,,,  "too much snow" and rain !!!!

 

Not pleasant picking up bodies in 2 meters on hard snow and telling parents to come and pick up bodies!

( Staff had to go in,,with still serious potential secondary avalanches in bowl)

 

Anyone who has skied Fernie knows how those cliffs just above the bowls have bus size slabs just hanging over cliffs!

 

Please everyone,,,,think before,,,,,respect nature,,,, and  respect ski pros who know when it is too dangerous !

 

Respectfully,

Vist

 

post #17 of 21

not sure what you just wrote, Vistman, are you saying there were fatalities? That is terrible. could you verify?

 

Not to be opportunistic when there is a tragedy, and I hope there isn't, but in some situations, the snow will rip out, not a matter of if, but when it is stressed at all.

It is an advantage to ski at an area that has a full range of exposures and a variety of terrain so that a skier can avoid danger by analyzing the snow pack. Squaw always has something, because if North is bad, other aspects may be safe. The wind can't slab everything, only the slopes in the lee of the prevailing wind, usually south here. Some wooded terrain has a lot of anchors. You need options. Sounds like Fernie is one of those one major aspect resorts; is that the case?

post #18 of 21
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

 Sounds like Fernie is one of those one major aspect resorts; is that the case?



Fernie has one major aspect, yeah, with a headwall above. The headwall gets a pretty huge windslab that patrol is blasting regularly. Also, the five bowls all get a fair bit of crossloading. Finally, the skiing area consists of, literally, five major avalanche paths. Oh yeah, and Fernie gets either midwinter rain, wet snow og beautiful powder on a completely irregular basis. 

 

So yeah, the avi danger is very real and they have Canada's highest explosive budget (or, it's second to BC highways) for a reason.

 

http://www.onthesnow.com/news/a/5263/fernie-upgrades-avalanche-program

post #19 of 21
Thread Starter 

The area that the skiers were caught in was open. Patrols did not cut the run after the major rain we had. Unreported was the ski coach tried to ski it and was caught up to his shoulders!! Don't know too much about the budget, but I would guess Whistler would have quite a bit, not to mention Jackson Hole. Also the numbers last year were down 30%. So if you don't mind closures during 5 or more centimeters, there is no lines:)

 

 

post #20 of 21

ski resorts built 50 + years ago were located on mountains with all the best possible aspects, features, terrain, climate etc. resorts built more recently seem to have a very limited offering, lacking in many essential characteristics. I would not plan a vacation to an area that had one major aspect; too easy to get skunked. You want tons of options.

Fernie was in a lot of ski films a while back; made it look like nirvana. shows what an illusion these films really are.

 

 

 

post #21 of 21
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Fernie in LockDown for over a week. Fernie has received a lot of snow, however the web site does not say that most of the upper hill is closed (Currie/Lizard/Cedar Bowls). On Friday a Heli was bought in and they still did not open on Saturday after they received another 5 cm. This note is just to let folks know that when snow falls at Fernie it will be a while before most of the hill is open. I have heard that they need more senior patrols and since they do not hike anymore, it may take days after a storm before the bowls open. Again this is for information only, not a slide on the patrollers or lack of them.

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