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180 and 360 Tips

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

So, I'm looking to start trying 180's and 360's. But, I don't know the technique of pulling these tricks off. Any advice for me....tips would be especially appreciated.

post #2 of 20

Step 1: Jump

Step 2: Spin

post #3 of 20

Step 3: Land

post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 

Wow....thanks for the help guys. I'll try that out soon! rolleyes.gif

post #5 of 20

99% is mental.  That's taking into account you can ski and strait air the jump already.  But really it's pop, start rotation, once your between 180 and 270 spot your landing, stomp it and ride away.  There is really no secret just got to commit to it 100% and go for it.  Good luck

post #6 of 20

Start rotation before you "pop".

post #7 of 20

Maybe this will help

 

post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by bmg97 View Post

Maybe this will help

 

Love the fist comment...

 

 

 

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Just pop it then land it right away hahaha

Me: Hey mister ski instructor I watched your video but still ate shit- do you have any advice?

Dude: Well what happened?

Me: I approached the jump...

Dude: Good. And then?

Me: And then popped at the lip and rotated all the way around.

Dude: Also good. Than what?

Me: Well, then I wiped out.

Dude: Aha! See, that's your problem right there- you need to pop it and then the last step is to land it right away!

Me: Oh I see nowJust pop it then land it right away hahaha

Me: Hey mister ski instructor I watched your video but still ate shit- do you have any advice?

Dude: Well what happened?

Me: I approached the jump...

Dude: Good. And then?

Me: And then popped at the lip and rotated all the way around.

Dude: Also good. Than what?

Me: Well, then I wiped out.

Dude: Aha! See, that's your problem right there- you need to pop it and then the last step is to land it right away!

Me: Oh I see now

 

That is too big of a jump to start off on. 

post #9 of 20

Better to start big don't you think :)

post #10 of 20

Keep your handsicon14.gif and head up and forward.  Don't do this!

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post #11 of 20

You mean the knee brace, raaaight?

 

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Maybe this will help

 

post #12 of 20

I want to try a 180 tommorow, how important is it that I learn skiing switch first? I can sort of ski backwards but barely.

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Originally Posted by sugarluver View Post

I want to try a 180 tommorow, how important is it that I learn skiing switch first? I can sort of ski backwards but barely.


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post #15 of 20

Its all about commiting with your shoulders.

 

As you spin turn your neck/shoulders so you can look at where you are spinning/gonna land.

 

Your feet/skis will follow you around.

 

So wind up with your upper body, and commit to the rotation as you pop, and keep comited and the rest of you will follow.

post #16 of 20

And yes it would be good to learn to ski backwards before trying to land switch.

 

And after you get switch 1s and threes switch fives arent as hard as they seem since your landing regular.

post #17 of 20

is it easier to learn 180s starting from switch? i can ride switch well. i can do flat spins really well. when i 180 i over rotate, catch edges. I think i am going to try starting from switch. Then you land regular which seems easier. Or is this just crazy?

post #18 of 20
You really need some personal instruction. That video gives advice quite different from what I usually coach. While most of the hundreds of skiers I have taught 360s to are waterskiers, I have taught several snow skiers as well. Personal coaching will make the learning curve steeper and safer. It's worth the money.

In the video he says to lead with the shoulders. That doesn't work for me. I think about leading with my hips. Your entire core rotates. Hips are closest to your core. Drive the rotation from your hips.

The easiest way to get a 360 is to find a small jump crosswise to the hill. Carve into the jump. This will start your spin. Stay level and pretend you have eyes in your hips - look with those imaginary eyes for the rotation. On a small jump you can help the rotation by pushing with the uphill pole. You don't need a lot of speed or air. If you are short on rotation, as long as you are level, you can either slide the finish or set an edge straight down the fall line.

You need to be able to ski switch but not super comfortable to land a 180. Just slide to front after landing.

The big jumps in the park are scary to try a new trick unless it's really soft snow.

An instructor will find you the right jump, tailor the coaching to your abilities and get you started. Good luck.

Eric
post #19 of 20
Jesus please learn a 360 before trying a 180. 3s are significantly easier and please, please, please start on a small jump. You really don't need a large jump to spin a 3. You may even want to try learning a few grabs first. Also speed is your friend the worst thing you can do is patially rotate and then knuckle the jump, even if you land sideways as long as you make the landing you will e relatively safe.
post #20 of 20

I learned them on plain old natural moguls, traversing across to hit it so if I came up a little short, between 270 and 360 I still had a safe LZ.  I taught people to learn them on smaller transitions like the edge of catwalks, but always with a person scouting for others that might be coming down to avoid collisions.  Agree that if you get comfortable with a 180 first it is a very tough habit to break and commit to the full turn.  I've known folks that were NEVER able to learn a heli after doing too many tries only landing 180, usually in a reverse wedge. 

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