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post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 

Hi, my friend and I are going to Colorado to ski for four days starting this Saturday, where are conditions best right now?  We'll be staying in Golden, and right now we're thinking of hitting A-Basin, Keystone and Copper Mountain and then probably going back to our favorite the fourth day.  We're kind of going in blind though because we haven't been there before and are only going by what we've heard from a few other people.  Also we're from Illinois so we're going to have fun regardlessbeercheer.gif  Where should we go?

 

 

We prefer off-piste runs and are probably intermediate or advanced intermediate, I was able to ski the whole mountain at Park City but I'm no expert.  Any advice is appreciated, thanks a lot!

post #2 of 25

You have a good plan already....follow it you'll have a good time

post #3 of 25

consider a day at Loveland

post #4 of 25

Copper is great because they have such great bowls.  Its just a good classic ski mountain.  I love it there personally.  Love Resolution Bowl.

 

Keystone has really fun tree skiing off the Outback.  Quite a few of them on either side.  Also, they have the best night skiing out west, as far as I know.

 

A-Basin is a lot smaller and more difficult if you're not an expert, but I haven't been there since they opened their Montezuma Bowl.  That might be fun.  Personally, I'd go to Breckenridge or drive on down to Vail instead, but that's just me.  If proximity is an issue, I think your plan sounds good.  

 

Keep your eye on the conditions.  Especially for when you go to Copper or A-Basin.  Both are pretty high altitude and with Copper you have two very different mountain sides for exposure.  Sometimes the back bowls are pure crust if there's no sun.  A-basin is harder to navigate if light is bad because its above tree line at the top.

 

post #5 of 25

If you're staying in Golden then the closest places are: Winter Park/Mary Jane, A-Basin and Loveland. The Mary Jane side of WP has the best bump skiing in Colorado and maybe anywhere in North America with some good trees and glades to ski as well. Harder to get to though over Berthoud Pass. A-Basin and Loveland are on the continental divide, Loveland usually gets more snow. A-Basin has some steeps on Palavichini and when there's enough snow, The East Wall. Loveland gets windy up above treeline and the snow conditions can vary depending but has some nice drop in spots along the ridge at the top.

 

The snow is decent at all 3 places right now with more snow expected over the weekend.

 

If it were me, I'd do first day at WP/MJ, A-Basin, Loveland, and back to MJ.

post #6 of 25
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the feedback!  After looking at your responses and finding out about the Shell gas station deal, I think we're going to do Copper, Winter Park and then for the last two days we'll decide between Loveland, A-Basin, Keystone or going back to Copper or Winter Park.  Thanks again for the help!

post #7 of 25

At Copper, Tucker mountain snowcat can get you to some nice off piste-ish runs. You need to hike a bit but I think it's worth it. Be there before 10 though. The line can get quite long.

 

http://www.coppercolorado.com/winter/events_and_activities/free_your_mountain/snowcat

post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 

Excellent, good to know!  Free too, that's always good biggrin.gif  I'm not sure if I see where exactly to go on the trail map, is it kind of by the blackjack or mountain chief lifts?  Thanks a lot for the info!

post #9 of 25

I usually take Sierra and hike up about 50 yards to the top of Mountain Chief and go down Copper bowl. Snowcat stops at a bit right (seeing from the top) of the bottom of Mountain Chief. I think you can go from the top of Rendezvous and Blackjack and go towards the bottom of Mountain Chief without hiking too, but I'm not 100% sure. I'd ask a lifty. Have fun :)

post #10 of 25
Thread Starter 

Oh I'm sure we will, thanks so much for the help!

post #11 of 25

Pick a clear day when you go to A-Basin.  Much of the terrain is above treeline and the light can get really flat.   But on a sunny day - love it.

 

Why are you staying in Golden?  That's a lot of driving each day.  if you factor in the gas, I would think you could stay in Dillon, Silverthorne or Frisco for about the same cost. 

 

post #12 of 25
Frankly, I'd pick Breck over Keystone. Much more challenging off piste terrain at Breck.

Mike
post #13 of 25
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 I think you can go from the top of Rendezvous and Blackjack and go towards the bottom of Mountain Chief without hiking too, but I'm not 100% sure.



Yes, get off Rendezvous, go straight over the back, take a hard right on the road and you'll come to Mountain Chief. Cat pickup is a bit to the west of the lift, you'll see a flag flying if it's open.

post #14 of 25
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Frankly, I'd pick Breck over Keystone. Much more challenging off piste terrain at Breck.

Mike

I agree. If you have some days in play you have to consider breck and honestly, every skier should go to vail at least once. If this is your first trip to Colorado I'd make sure to visit vail for a day, go early and stay late. I could delete any of the resorts listed but would not miss Breckenridge or Vail.
 

post #15 of 25
Vail = Great mountain but these guys are doing weekend day trips from Golden. Summit county is a zoo and Vail is not a good day trip.

Breckenridge is flat and boring IMO. Not worth going there unless you want to hang out in town and drink or shop.

 

post #16 of 25
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Breckenridge is flat and boring IMO. Not worth going there unless you want to hang out in town and drink or shop.

 



That's funny.  Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.  I have no idea where you are from, but it clearly does not involve significant skiing at Breck.

 

Want some 50 degree chutes?  Hike five minutes to the Lake Chutes.  Want a 39 degree pitch with baby butt soft snow?  Hit Lulu's.  Want tight 40 degree tree skiing?  Try Eye of the Needle.  Want great steep alpine terrain?  Try most any line off of Peak 7 or Horseshoe Bowl or Contest Bowl.  Want lots of interesting trees, some steep, some less so?  Try Windows, or the Burn, or tons of other spots on the mountain.

 

Lots of people diss Breck for it's terrain, but what it really shows is that they simply do not know the mountain.

 

Mike

post #17 of 25
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Breckenridge is flat and boring IMO. Not worth going there unless you want to hang out in town and drink or shop.

 



That's funny.  Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.  I have no idea where you are from, but it clearly does not involve significant skiing at Breck.

 

Want some 50 degree chutes?  Hike five minutes to the Lake Chutes.  Want a 39 degree pitch with baby butt soft snow?  Hit Lulu's.  Want tight 40 degree tree skiing?  Try Eye of the Needle.  Want great steep alpine terrain?  Try most any line off of Peak 7 or Horseshoe Bowl or Contest Bowl.  Want lots of interesting trees, some steep, some less so?  Try Windows, or the Burn, or tons of other spots on the mountain.

 

Lots of people diss Breck for it's terrain, but what it really shows is that they simply do not know the mountain.

 

Mike


I know it well enough to know that it's a pain in arse to get aroundsmile.gif

 

 

I'd ski there before skiing Keystone but I'd hit the Basin or Copper before Breck any day.   

 

That being said I have skied and will continue to ski at all 4 SuCo resorts and have a blast doing it!

 

Oh and nice seeing you today!!  Another sweet uncrowded powder day with no traffic coming home to top it officon14.gif

post #18 of 25

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Originally Posted by habacomike View Post

That's funny.  Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.  I have no idea where you are from, but it clearly does not involve significant skiing at Breck.

 

Want some 50 degree chutes?  Hike five minutes to the Lake Chutes.  Want a 39 degree pitch with baby butt soft snow?  Hit Lulu's.  Want tight 40 degree tree skiing?  Try Eye of the Needle.  Want great steep alpine terrain?  Try most any line off of Peak 7 or Horseshoe Bowl or Contest Bowl.  Want lots of interesting trees, some steep, some less so?  Try Windows, or the Burn, or tons of other spots on the mountain.

 

Lots of people diss Breck for it's terrain, but what it really shows is that they simply do not know the mountain.

 

Mike


These are all lies - damn lies!  Don't listen to a word he says.  Breck is flat as a board, super crowded, and the lifts suck.  I wouldn't go there if I were you.

post #19 of 25
Dave, nice seeing you today as well. Copper was fantastic yesterday. We've got to find time for a run or two together, but I'm concerned I won't be able to keep up with Olivia.

Noodler, sorry for the breach of etiquette. Yep, Breck is fla and boring. You guys should skip Breck and go to Vail.
post #20 of 25
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Dave, nice seeing you today as well. Copper was fantastic yesterday. We've got to find time for a run or two together, but I'm concerned I won't be able to keep up with Olivia.

Noodler, sorry for the breach of etiquette. Yep, Breck is fla and boring. You guys should skip Breck and go to Vail.


 

 No you should skip Vail as well.  As many knowledgable posters have frequently pointed out on this site, Vail is also flat and boring. 

post #21 of 25
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Dave, nice seeing you today as well. Copper was fantastic yesterday. We've got to find time for a run or two together, but I'm concerned I won't be able to keep up with Olivia.

Noodler, sorry for the breach of etiquette. Yep, Breck is fla and boring. You guys should skip Breck and go to Vail.


Next time you are going to be up on Saturday shoot me a text or give me a call.  Since Olivia is doing Team Summit on Saturday's I'm free to play with the big people.....

 

 

Any other days are my days with her and her sister!  She's truly going to leave me in the dust in the 1-3 years.  Her technique is is already something to behold.

 

 

 

After we saw you yesterday we were skiing with on her little friend down 17 glade.  When we popped out onto Bouncer the little guy hit a jump and broke the binding off one of his skis.  Olivia decided since he had to ski down on 1 ski she would as well.  By the time we down to the bottom she was skiing fluidly, quickly and effortlessly on one ski.  I've spent days trying to get fluid on one ski......without success so farfrown.gif

post #22 of 25

Just my opinion. I used to ski there before I figured out there were way better places to ski without the Gapers and Texans messing about :) Used to go up to Peak 8 (that old rope tow) in the old days and ski left through the trees and then they developed that area and called it Peak 7.

 

Anyway, nothing personal. I just don't go there anymore. Good Jack Nicklaus designed golf course to play up there in the summer with great views of the 10-mile range. Awesome.

 

post #23 of 25
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Just my opinion. I used to ski there before I figured out there were way better places to ski without the Gapers and Texans messing about :

 



That's cause you skied where the Gapers and Texans were messing about-just like you were-no chutes for you!!

post #24 of 25
Thread Starter 

To JimH: we were staying in Golden because we were crashing at our friend's place there, the driving did get a bit annoying but it wasn't awful considering we had free lodging.  Alright, first of all thanks to everyone who helped me out!  Overall we had an excellent trip.

 

Saturday we went to Copper Mountain which, sadly, was not fantastic.  I felt like I was skiing in Illinois again!  Actually it wasn't quite that bad, and we did manage to find a couple nice spots but overall bad conditions.

 

Sunday more than made up for Saturday.  We went to Winter Park, where conditions were already decent, and it snowed alllll dayyyyy.  We spent the majority of the day going through the bowl and the trees off the panoramic express lift.  Awesome!

 

Monday snow conditions were fantastic.  We decided to try out Loveland.  The snow was amazing but it was something like -40 with wind chill (I swear it was more going up chair 2 or chair 9) so we took a few more breaks than I would've liked.  Fresh or barely tracked snow all day though, which was just amazing for me because I hadn't done much powder skiing at all (with the exception of Sunday at Winter Park).  We even got 1 AMAZING run off chair 9 before they closed it due to high winds, completely untracked and steep just like I've always dreamed of.  Overall a pretty awesome day, especially considering I froze my a@@ off.

 

For the last day we decided to go back to Winter Park and take further advantage of the 2 for 1 Shell deal.  It was supposed to be really cold again.  I don't know what the actual temperature was but all day it felt like springtime!  We got tons of mostly or completely (for parts) untracked runs off in the trees off the sides of the Mary Jane bump runs and off the eaglewind lift after they opened it.  Panoramic express was closed all day.  A liftie told us it was because of the cold, which I found hilarious when I thought about our Monday at Loveland.  They must've had the entire resort closed on Monday!  Anyway, it was a ton of fun.  Just unbelievable snow and great weather all day.  By far the best ski trip of my life so far.

 

Thanks to everyone who helped us out to make this the unforgettable experience that it was!

post #25 of 25

Glad you had a great trip.  And you still have Breck, A-Basin and Keystone to sample next time!

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