"But you don't get that with the typical lesson because the "guest centered" instructor is busy trying to give you what you superficially want even when it is clearly in conflict with good instruction. When I showed up at Steep Camp at Jackson Hole, I wanted to get better and I would have had no problem if the instructor would have said, "Hey you are a really athletic skier, but your technique isn't going to be very effective on the runs we're going to ski. How about we head down to some easier terrain and I show you how skiing really works?" Instead, I got a few band-aids applied to my technique and I spent the week hop, hop, hopping down Jackson's double-blacks. Yes, I had fun and I gained enough confidence to start straight-lining things, but ultimately the experience was tremendously dissatisfying because it did nothing to advance my skiing ability. Nominally, yes, I wanted to get better on steeps, but that was only because I assumed my technique was good enough to be there in the first place."
This is a direct quote. He says he went to a steeps camp, identified as such, and found the experience "tremendously dissatisfying," and believes it would have been much better if, rather than addressing both the focus of the camp, and his "nominal want" of getting better on steeps, they'd spent lots of time on easier terrain.
It was a long paragraph, but I think that meaning is clear. One lesson from the end of this thread should be humility. Humility about your own ability level, but also humility if you screw up. If you attend a steeps camp that you weren't ready for, what you should say is "Attending a steeps camp when you're not at least a strong intermediate is a bad idea." There's no shame is making the initial mis-assessment, I've done that myself. The lesson for instructors should not be to offer fewer steeps camps, or to tell people who want to ski the great terrain that a place like Jackson has to offer that they should spend the camp on short radius frontside carvers on terrain that doesn't resemble at all the terrain they want to learn to ski. (It is true of many specialty camps that, given a full two weeks, many of them might spend several days on the flats, but for a 3 or 5 day camp experience you don't have that luxury.)
I also think strong intermediates who read this should not then say, whoa, maybe I should spend another few years before trying something like a steeps camp. If you call and talk to people beforehand, they have pretty good experience at telling whether it may be a fit or not. At something like Steep & Deep the lower couple groups generally would be considered strong intermediates and most genuinely find it one of the best experiences they've had on skis. Their repeat rate is really high. BTW modern skis do help, and frontside carvers would be a lousy choice.
I read it differently. He says he has fun but he does not like the shortcut (band-aid) approach. He is patient and willing to take time to learn the fundamentals. The description you and other use are "strong intermediates" and "level 6". Do you still think he is not that good even after what Noodler said. Do we really have to put down others to prove our own point?