Wow, what a lot of postings. I will try to anwere all of them in order of posting. Here we go....
@ mojoman - thanks for your feedback. You raice a lot of good questions. Yes, its a technical demo. But the ide is to ski moderately slowl on easy gromers without any aggression or speed. Any skiing is IMO real world skiing. Every skiing just has a different purpose. I ski like this quite a lot. And I enjoy doing so. You mention that its too rigid and static. And my skis are too close together. Am I correct if I say that the static appearance is due to the lack of extention and flexion? Rigid comes from a strong position? Close stance from good balance skills?
@ Rick H - thanks for the Ligerty and Hirsch comparisson, very flattering, but I should be compared to similair skiing not wc skiing even if Im @ the same level . You dont see any counter or angulation. I think there is some. Not a whole lot but some where in the region of sufficient.
@ Ghost - you are on to me LOL. A parlour trick. Indeed, but like all magicians I will not reveal how its made. But isnt all skiing like a continuous flow of magical tricks? I was trying very hard not to up-unweight even if Im not a very radical up-unweighter. Im the static kind like pointed out here already. Q, how does the virtual bump build up if Im not linking turns? From where does the momentum come? What starts the turn? How do you want your stake sir, medium or well done? The demo, by cross through, do you mean a retraction transition type of turn?
@ Kneale Brownson - I cannot fool you can I? And yes, correct, its not racing technique. Bingo, Im lifting the inside ski. And that does something doesent it? It funnily enough unweights my skis. Sharp eye. You call it bogus. I call it magic. But that is not relevant here. Only the mechanism that I use to initiate a turn. Your task was to find out what it was and you did well. But that does not mean that the discussion needs to be over just because the cards are on the table because like all magicians I have some cards up my sleeve. Thanks for not missing a good opportunity to slam my dated wedging technique of the future! But you are right that this was the way we skied back in the pre carving ski era. Would you call it a sequencial technique? BTW, do you think the weighted release uses the same basic unweighting consept?
@ mojoman - you are right, a wider stance would complicate things. So we agree that in order to ski like I did in the clip a close stance is needed. In a close stance all movements can be more subtle. Adds to the static appearance. BTW, whats wrong with foot steering and a close stance? The opposite would be a wide stance and carving.
@ 4ster - Thats my point exactly! Turning out of a traverse. Im trying to isolate the movements I use to turn. Do the same the next time you are skiing and tell me what you found out.
@ thesoggycow - short and no BS approach. Thanks. Thats exactly what it was, close stance and lifting my inside ski. Back seat? Could be. Should I extend my knee joint or bend more at the waist or both?
@ jasp - correct. The CoM distance from snow can vary without any extention or flexion to unweight. Step turn? Can a step turn be made by just picking a ski up in the air? I thaught a step would include a "step". At least how I was thaugth the step turn back in the 70s. Also, if you are letting your skis run straight forward on their uphill edges and you tip them to their downhill edges you will initiate a carve. This is not what Im doing. Im turning about 10 times tighter than a carved turn on these skis. You are right, carving is theoretically simple if you compare it to basic parallel turns.
@ Ashski - a million thanks for your great feedback . And thanks for the video in the link. I whish I could ski like that. Its good to hear that you think the CB and the CA is sufficient for the type of skiing Im demonstrating. Correct, I flex to release. In your responce to KB you mention that you dont think that lifting of the ski is up-unweighting. This is a gray zone. I think you are both right. And offcourse its not bogus to lift one ski up in the air as we can see from the video you posted.
@ nolo - no I dont remember the jet sticks. So you think that lifting that inside ski was a misstake? In that case it was a deliberate misstake be cause I did that on purpose. That BTW was the reason I turned so it could hardly be a misstake. At the most crappy skiing. No, Im not suggesting you or anybody else should ski like this if you would not want to. Thats up to each and everyone of us. Wow, you sure have a long list of complaints:
- looking at tips
- traversing between turns
- lifting inside ski
- lack of counter
- pole swing unrelated to turn tempo
You dont have anything positive to say about the demo. No sweat, I can take it. I have heared it before, I keep looking at the ski tips. Sofar I have never run into anything else than racing gates on occation and some good looking women mainly in the afterski bar. But none of them were due to me looking at my ski tips or the floor. Anyway, I dont pay any attention to them even if it appears Im looking at them. I think its because Im consentrated and its easier to keep my balance that way. The whole ide was to traverse between turns. That was part of the task. Funny that you did not understand why I was traversing. It was discussed in the other thread. Lifting of the inside ski was also part of the demo. I had to lift the ski in order to turn. That was almost the only single movement I did. I should go out and make the same demo with more counter. If I did I bet I would get hammered for doing so. I saw no need for more counter than I used. The pole swing is right where it should be. IMHO offcourse. It should be isolated from every other movement and not depending on turning. According to the manual the pole plant should be at the exact moment of weight shift. If you look at the video you can see that this happens every time. But pole planting is a highly personal thing. I like the pole swing/turn tempo setup. Looks good to me. Contrived! Not much I can comment on that. In a way that is a positive thing. Thanks. I was trying to be as stable as I could. Standing up down the hill. Its funny that you do not see that its exactly what Im doing in the video. Im releasing the outside ski loading the inside ski and starting a tipping movement down the hill. I would love to see a demo of how you out of a traverse initiate a turn by squatting and pulling up your legs. That needs to be a pritty quick movement to beat gravity. I could not do it but maybe you are quicker. But that could hardly be a very efficient way of initiating turns. And deffinetly not result in what you call skiing with nice flow. Thats eather in your head or then you are doing something different.
@ bud heisman and nolo - I had the rights to use the footer and no moderator has given me any orders to delete it. But I dont want to cause any harm to anyone so I deleted it.
@ dustyfog - thanks for your assistance. Thats exactly how it is. Although I think this thread should be able to be totally independent.
@ bud and nolo - LOL, poor skiing, slander..... Ok, you are entitled your opinions. About the epicski reference... nolo, you should have pm me insted of accusing me of trademark violation like this out in the open. More professionla approach. But its gone now, from all the videos I could find a reference in.
Thats all for now folks. If I missed any posting please get back to me and I will do my best to comment on the feedback I missed.