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Ski recommendation for my level + style

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Hi all,

 

First time in the forum here, looks like there are some great discussions going on from what I read.  I'm looking to get on a different pair of skis.  I'm a 6'0, 185 lb. male currently on a set of Line Skogen Sprang Pro 178cm twin tips on Rosi power 140 bindings.  I got the setup free from a friend and these are the skis that I learned to ski on.  I would classify myself as an intermediate skier as I can handle the blue's confidently and pick my way down some of the blacks.  I do all of my skiing in Vermont on groomers, but would love to start getting into the back bowls and trees here on the East Coast.  I'm looking for an all mountain ski that can hold an edge well as the Line skogens seem to be really washy.  I have looked at (but not tried) the Atomic Crimson Ti, K2 Apache Recon/Xplorer, but see that these skis are recommended for "expert".  Any more questions please ask.  Thank you for the input!

 

-Austin

post #2 of 6

Welcome. Of the skis you mention, the Crimson would have a far better grip, far better suited to eastern conditions. OTOH, probably not the best tree ski, although I see a fair number of them back here on good skiers, so must work OK. But they are fairly demanding, so unless you're planning to take some lessons, probably a lot of $$ for a ski that'll ski you. I'd think about something like a Prophet 90, K2 Extreme, or Sultan 85 if you want a do all that can handle trees; they won't shine on hardpack, but can handle it, all nice in bumped out woods. 

 

"...back bowls..."?? th_dunno-1[1].gif

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Thank you Beyond.  I am looking to make my way away from the twin tips.  Of those the Sultan 85 looked like the best choice.  I'm a little curious about them being so wide as I do spend most of my time on the groomed trails.  This would be a 1 quiver ski for me.

post #4 of 6

The Sultan 85 is not as wide as the Atomic Crimson Ti.

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Originally Posted by moranimal View Post
I'm a little curious about them being so wide as I do spend most of my time on the groomed trails.  This would be a 1 quiver ski for me.

Well, I wuz reacting to your statement that you wanted to start venturing off-piste, trees, and those mysterious bowls. The Sultan is said to be a great middle flex, mid fat, all-around ski that dominates at nothing but is solid at everything. (I skied/owned the Legend 8000, 8800, LPR, among other D's, so all last generation's designs, but have a hunch the same general feel and missions apply; feedback from SJ's review of it suggests classic feel, upgraded carving.) If I had to deal with all conditions back here, one ski allowed, the 85 would be on my list. 

 

OTOH, if you're seeing yourself more as a groomer guy for a while yet, then I'd say buy a 72-78 mm carver right now, lot to choose from, and plan to pick up a 95-105 softer snow ski when you're ready to hit the trees. For an intermediate who plans to advance, and wants some flexibility, I can think of three great choices: Salomon Tornado Ti, Blizzard Supersonic, Dynastar Contact Cross Ti. Though narrow enough to carve really well, all three will be surprisingly adept at bumps and chop, even trees after they've been skied out a bit. 

 

Oh yeah, and the difference between the Sultan and the Crimson is like 2 or 3 mm. Take your fingers and hold them that far apart. Not much, huh? Rule of thumb 1: Unless we're racers, we can't detect differences in width under 5 mm when we ski. ROT 2: Within say 10-15 mm of width, sidecut, shape, and flex pattern are a lot more relevant for how a ski handles. The Contact, for instance, handles 6" of powder a lot better than the Magnum 8.1 IMO. Why? Because it's got a softer front end, a more progressive flex, and major taper from tip to tail. It comes up and smears around, while the 8.1 blasts through. My .02, anyway. 
 

post #6 of 6
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Thanks a bunch Beyond.  I checked out all of the skis you recommended and the Salomon Tornado appears to be what I'm looking.  Thank you again!

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