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2011 Line Prophet 115 Review

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Thread Starter 

 

Picked up a pair of Line Prophet 115s from the Start Haus in Truckee, and now have about 10 days on them.  Here is my review....

 

skiing background:  i am 5'9" 145 lbs  (about 20 lbs lighter than my college racing days 20 years ago when i was 60-70 FIS point racer). i am 40 years old.   the last 4-5 years i have been primarily skiing and coaching telemark, but this year i have been primarily skiing and coaching alpine ski racing.  for the last 7-8 years i have averaged 45-75 days/season.... mostly in N. Tahoe with Alpine Meadows as my home mountain.  

 

ski setup:  i mounted them up fixed heel with a pair of Salomon 16STHs mounted on the line.  i went with the 179s for playfulness in the trees, billy goating, etc.  i have owned and skied the P90 and P100 in the past.  i have also done ski testing for Couloir/Backcountry Magazine in the past, so i have some experience being on a variety of skis.

 

overall impressions:  these are FUN skis.  these have been my "everyday" Tahoe ski for the last 2+ weeks of this storm cycle.  i have been out in fresh light pow, cut up chop, wind-affected styrofoam, some heavier sierra cement, hard-pack groomers, etc.  these skis can do big long turns, fairly short turns and everything in between.    

 

groomers -

i tend to favor GS style turns and like high angles.  on groomers…. these things can RAIL like my Volkl GS race skis.  the tails are stiff enough so that if you want load them up, they will respond and you shoot across the hill into your next turn.  if you want to ski more mellow and simply roll them on edge, these things will hold and let you just cruise… and enjoy the ride.  definitely nice, at the end of the day when the legs are running out of juice.  i did not take them out on true consistent bullet proof ice, but on ice that i did hit…. these things held fine.  torsionally, these skis are stiff and it transfers down to the edges… which wasn't the case with some other wider skis that i have owned in the past, like the Volkl Sumo.

 

groomers/cut-cup chop - 

going from groomers to cut up pow or chop and then back again to groomers…. if you stay centered on the ski and drive them…. they make the transition feel seamless.  maybe it might be due to locking my heels down vs telemark, but i could charge right through both  conditions without ever feeling like i might get bobbled around.

 

cut-up chop - 

in full cut-up chop, these skis smoothed out the slop.  no i won't say it made firm cut-up chop feel like a "groomer", but i definitely could hit this stuff at speed and feel fully balanced.  if you end up in the back seat, with the stiffer tails…. the skis could toss you around.  so you definitely need to stay somewhat attentive, and especially at  higher super-G speeds.  in regards to the slight tip rocker... in the cut up chop, the tips did tend to flap a little especially at higher super-G turns and speed.  at first it was a little unnerving, but eventually i have gotten used to it.  if you stay centered and ski with good technique, totally not an issue.  186 vs 179 length.  i would imagine that the 186 would give a more stable ride in this regard at higher speeds.  

 

pow - 

the P115s rock.  it makes the pow so easy, it is ridiculous.  i skied them in anywhere from 6" fresh to 18" fresh…. they killed it. the tip rocker, the 115mm waist, etc…. combines to make a fun pow ski in big open turns and in tight trees.  need to scrub speed or butter a pivot turn around a tree… not an issue.  just ease up on the throttle, flatten your edge angle, and there you go…. spread the butter.

 

air - 

i am NOT a big air guy.  10-15 feet is about as big as i go.  the P115s have more than enough surface area to make landing those drops fun and easy.  bigger airs, i don't know…. but i am guessing they would be just fine.

 

final conclusion:  so far, to me they seem to be the perfect Tahoe ski.  the 179 length is a fun length for me…. if Squaw (vs Alpine Meadows) were my home mountain, i would probably choose the 186 for gobbling up vert at higher speeds.   i was unsure about the sidecut and tend NOT to like skis with wide tails, but it has not been an issue… i had originally thought i was going to have a 3 ski quiver with a racer carver for groomers and ice, something around 90-95mm for all mountain, and the P115s for pow or day after storm skiing etc.  at this point and from what i have seen with the P115s…. they will be my quiver of one, with my race skis reserved for coaching days or maching the groomers.

 

 

This is a video of my ~5th day on the skis in variable conditions from hard pack to ~6" of pow in the trees.... I was skiing with my kids and goofing around with a new GoPro chest mounted camera.


Edited by chili - 1/7/11 at 9:07am
post #2 of 16

Thanks for posting this review. I sadly haven't been able to take mine out of the wrapper yet but hope to within the next couple weeks. What tune did you put on these?

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Thanks for posting this review. I sadly haven't been able to take mine out of the wrapper yet but hope to within the next couple weeks. What tune did you put on these?

If you need to think about the tune, then you probably should have brought a different ski with you that day.
 

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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post

If you need to think about the tune, then you probably should have brought a different ski with you that day.
 

Agreed, but he said that the video skiing was on hard pack and that he would be using these as a quiver of one except for coaching and maching groomers.
 

post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 

ha.... to be honest, i am not sure what the tune is on these skis.  when i had them mounted by the Start Haus, they asked if i wanted a "new ski" tune.... and i said sure!  it looks like Tahoe is in for a Junuary dry spell, so i'll take them out and see how they do on a predominantly groomer day.  

 

definitely get them mounted up, i think you might be pleasantly surprised at their versatility... at least i was!

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Originally Posted by chili View Post

ha.... to be honest, i am not sure what the tune is on these skis.  when i had them mounted by the Start Haus, they asked if i wanted a "new ski" tune.... and i said sure!  it looks like Tahoe is in for a Junuary dry spell, so i'll take them out and see how they do on a predominantly groomer day.  

 

definitely get them mounted up, i think you might be pleasantly surprised at their versatility... at least i was!

Start Haus does a 1*/2* base/side bevel by hand, we plane back the sidewalls and to a full hand wax with Holmenkol Beta (unless specified other), we put about an hours work into each ski. 

 

When we had some fresh snow a few weeks ago, I tool out the P115 for a day of skiing over at A-Meadows. First of all, visually I am not a fan of this ski, it looks like the took a Prophet and used it to skim the algae out of a pool. Past the graphics, I really like the feel of the ski, it is not a cap like the P90 or 100 but a sandwich with real sidewalls, and feels like a regular Prophet on steroids. I like the shape of the ski..for me, I am not one for long radius bullet tip skis that prefer straight lining over turns, I am not that fast of a skier. I will look to nimbleness over top end. The early rise really worked well in the heavy snow that we were in and just stayed on top very well.  While some 115mm wide sis might be faster, stiffer and some cases softer, few big are as versatile as the Prophet 115, the ski is a winner. 
 

post #7 of 16

Sounds like a very good ski. Maybe its just the gaper in me but I don't appreciate a uber stiff ski in variable soft snow. I like a ski that doesn't beat me up and I have to "be on" all day to get it into its sweet zone, I ain't Ralves, ya" know!    BTW- if anyone gets skis from Da' Haus, the new ski tune is just something you should do. I don't care if you are just skiing pow, the ski will be starting off as it should be. 

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Phil - What size ski were you using and how big are you?  I've skiied the Prophet 100 and @ 185lbs, they didn't like smaller radius turns all that much, as in they were a hand full skiing fallline on Palisades.  For me, at least.  I was considering a Prophet 100 in a 179, but the 115 has gotten my attention.


Greg

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Originally Posted by GEH View Post

Phil - What size ski were you using and how big are you?  I've skiied the Prophet 100 and @ 185lbs, they didn't like smaller radius turns all that much, as in they were a hand full skiing fallline on Palisades.  For me, at least.  I was considering a Prophet 100 in a 179, but the 115 has gotten my attention.


Greg



5'10" 188 lb. and I skied it in a 179. 

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Start Haus does a 1*/2* base/side bevel by hand, we plane back the sidewalls and to a full hand wax with Holmenkol Beta (unless specified other), we put about an hours work into each ski.
 

You spend two hours on a pair of skis for the $60 tuning service? Seems like a really good deal.
 

post #11 of 16

I neglected to say I was on a Prophet 100 in the 186cm size.

 

Greg

post #12 of 16

Cool, nice review. I am excited to try them the next chance I get. Will be nice to compare to the Olympus, Huge Rocker, and Mx108.

post #13 of 16

Thanks, Chili. This is a good review of the Prophet 115's.

I own a pair and have found them to be much more versatile than I ever could have imagined a ski that big being.

 

I'm 5'10" and 160 lbs and ski 70+ days/year. I bought the 172 cm skis, because I value turning over top end.

When I bought these skis, I would have been happy just to have a powder ski with enough tip rise to prevent tip dive when the snow is deep and heavy.

The 115's certainly do that, but they also do pretty much everything else too.

I have even skied them on hardpack and (while they would not be your tool of choice if you usually skied hardpack) they do just fine.

I was not surprised that they are great in powder (and they are). But I was surprised by how well they ski crud and groomers.

They ski like real skis (not cafeteria trays). They carve and they hold an edge.

And they will cheerfully noodle around, making any size turn you'd like.

I was concerned that the fairly radical sidecut might feel goofy or want to hook up, but I have not had any problems like that.

They are a real easy ride. Smooth and stable. I expect to use them about 50% of the time, with my old standby Mythics getting the rest of the duty.

The Prophet 115 is a great ski.

 

As I get older, skis are getting better.

Makes it easier to hang in there.

Big skis have come a long ways.

post #14 of 16

I continue to read nothing but great things about this ski.  Of course it seems to ski well in powder, but the big adjective everyone seems to be using is versatility.  Very surprising and impressive for such a large ski.  

post #15 of 16

" They ski like real skis (not cafeteria trays). They carve and they hold an edge." Ha! so I'm not the only one who didn't drink the kool-aid... sounds like a great ski...

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Ditto the opinions...the ski's width is great for clearing blowdowns I encounter off-resort and possesses great TR flexibiity in tree lines in 14"+...however I think a few other skis I haven't tried might have done just as well...LOL.  There's quite a mix of powder and crud in the woods/on the side of smaller mtns up here...scrubbing speed and abrupt stops are mandatory and the ski has done it all pretty easily.

I think one or more of the 2012 skis will capture in-resort time next season..

 

$.01

SteveD


Edited by HaveSkisWillClimb - 2/27/11 at 4:00pm
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