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Regarding the Rossignol S7 skis I have to say that these are the best skis built ever for big mountain and powder skiing. Especially ski shows its quality when you face diverse conditions on the same run. I skied with these skis more than 150 days in last 3 years. Mostly in powder and new snow conditions all kind of snow types. I am 183cm, 85kg plus equipment (ABS and skiing equipment) and I was ski instructor in national demo team of SLO. I am using S7 in length 188cm and 195cm. 195cm only for fresh, very deep snow with a lot of volume (not compact) and fast skiing with long turns. So, the statement that the skis have to much parabolic shape (to short radius) is ridicules. You have to just use one size of length bigger. Plus I have to say that more parabolic (carving shape - narrow below the ski shoes) has no special bad effect in powder. Moreover, the ski is more responsive and radical on short turns. On to the last mentioned characteristic has big influence also a pin tail of the skis. This parameter makes skis responsive and easy turning on high speed and fast reactions for an example in trees skiing. It is impressive how stable this skis are. Thankful to the fact that ski is of pure composite sandwich construction full of carbon wood and aluminum in proper composite relations, the ski under the charge make perfect curve and they don't jump over big turns. The skis without pin tail don't carve so perfect and need always more and more corrections during the long turn.  So, once you decide how much to dose the charge on the S7 ski you chose the carve length and you just glide and don't think anymore. If you because of what ever reason want to change the length of your curve you re dose the charge and voila you glide on the powder without corrections after every 2 meters. Just gliding. Simple as that. Sandwich construction has another advantage; Skis are torsion stable what causes that the skis are stable on high speed in powder runs and on hard terrains as well. Imagine this unbeatable combination... :)

Fast gliding or fast come out of the deep powder has roots in wide upper body of the ski and perfect distribution of the shape of complete ski. Hope will never change it in Rossignol before doing testing and getting feedback from the market with other models.

Regarding the skiing on the hard pistes (moments when you have to come from off piste run to the lift again or when you have to approach to the helicopter on the bottom of the big mountain close to the fjord where the snow is not snow but ice ) these skis are amazing. You can and you must trust them and ski like you do it on the short slalom racing skis. The reverse camber concept under the bindings gives to this skis incomparable effect to any of skis of the same type on the market. I tested all skis of Voelkel, Armada, Fischer, Atomic, Dynastar, even Elan etc. but found out that S7 is unique. Unique on the planet guys...

What is very help full in powder skiing and makes skis easy to turn and self correcting in sense of balance is "banana shape" or in tech words; scoop and rocker line (scoop is measured from the tip and first 50cm of the ski and a rocker on the tail usually 50cm of the tail of the ski). So you have big scoop which exiting in reverse camber than comes fluidly and logic to the intensive rocker line. This makes skis as I said dynamically stable. Like the wings on the airplane... Check the Wikipedia to understand it better for those which are not mechanic ingeneers.

Finally the most important is what people say when they try skis. From the first to the last I got always just very, very positive feed backs of different level and style of skiers. I claim that every pussy can do the powder skiing with these skis and every expert can just improve his skiing and experience. My opinion is that these skis are bringing to the skiing industry almost the same revolution as it was when Elan introduced first carving skis. This is a fact and it is only the matter of time when everybody will try to copy them. But if they will miss only one of above underlined parameters and characteristics the skis will never be comparable with the Rossignol S7 skis. Never!

And now about the design. Tastes are different said the monkey which leaked the shit but I have to tell that for me the 2009 pictures of the skis were fare better as these on 2010. Let's see what will bring 2011 model... :)

Buy one pair and let me know what do you think. The answer is on the palm... It will drive you crazy guys... I know... :)))))

 

Best regards,

Zokinjo

 p.s.: one tip more.. Mount the bindings for one cm more in to the back... ;) and/or buy and install Marker Schizzo bindings as I did... - prove that I am not an employee of Rossignol and kick that Rossi will develop similar bindings MTFs... :)

and of course, sorry for my English... :(


Edited by zokinjo - 1/3/11 at 1:09pm
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ya, your english is poor. As well I was goign to say it sounds like Rossi is overpaying you for your reviews and expertise. I understand that these skis are great skis, but your review doesn't do them justice. As well, all of your reviews and posts are regarding rossi merchandise.  Rossi can I have a cut of his money?

pleasE?

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I admitted my poor English...maybe you would make me some lessons on it and I will teach you skiing... ok? :)

but the fact is that the skis have no competition...

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btw shoal_jamesbond...you have beautiful ski shoes but they are too soft. The only two reasons can be for your choosing;

 

1. that you don't ski good enough

or/and

2. you have a weight of a dwarf... ;)


Edited by zokinjo - 1/3/11 at 2:45pm
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btw shoal_jamesbond...you have beautiful ski shoes but they are too soft. The only two reasons can be for your choosing;

 

1. that you don't ski good enough

or/and

2. you have a weight of a dwarf... ;)

 

I hope you realize that the boots are just a default image for someone who didn't upload a profile pic.  LOL

 

btw, your review is one big wall of text...bad english is excusable since it's obviously not your first language.  Bad formatting is not as easily dismissed.  And why did you copy/paste the same wall of text on multiple threads?  Please don't spam the message boards.

 

Thanks.
 

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the best skis built ever for big mountain and powder skiing.


Sorry, just lost your credibility. That's as far as I got before I realized this is a useless review.

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one more note is that your "review" sounds more like a commercial, filled with marketing features of the skis that you specifically underlined and how they're suppose to work.  I can find all that stuff on Rossi's website.  Everything in the review is about what a person could do with the skis, not what your impressions of the skis were.  Sorry, but it just reeks of advertisement.

 

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So you've skied on ski 150 days and three years that just came out this season?

Interesting.

The partiality of your review is quite suspect. I do hear great things about these skis though.

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So you've skied on ski 150 days and three years that just came out this season?

Interesting.

The partiality of your review is quite suspect. I do hear great things about these skis though.


 

Not gonna defend the review - but the S7 is on its third year of broad distribution (first year had dark tops and green in the bases - still see some around). It is not a new ski. It is, however one of a class of ski only now being recognized for what it is. 

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ok, I'm a dork.

Interesting construction to these things. Are they really that slow? - I saw segbrown's review. Maybe it's from being +3cm?

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I don't know anything about the guy who started this thread but as a skier with 40 seasons of at least 40 days under my belt I have never had more fun on a pair of skis in my life.  I bought my Super 7's last year (early release or some such marketing b.s.) figuring they would come out just on the deep days.  I was wrong about that and I ski them at least 50% of the time.  There are plenty of really good skis out there but if you have a chance to try them you should do it.  And you don't have to wait for 18 inches of cold smoke to do it.

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Yep they're a kick. Totally. But he's clearly been hired by someone to hawk them, shouldn't be spamming us, and anyway what S7's are not is a Big Mountain ski. Powder yes, trees, absolutely, maching heavy variable at 50 degrees, no. Go try a Rossi 112 and report back. In any case, the whole "best blah blah in the world is kinda amusing. (Except if you're talking about Kastle MX88's, since they really are the World's Best Ski. wink.gif )

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80 people reviewed the video and one liked it.I would like a pair of S7s in spite of the review.

 

Remember when Epic used to delete threads.  This one would have been deleted.

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Well, the guy seems to be a legit skier, even though he may have an agenda and the post look TGR-ish...  Hey, let's keep Epic fun and edgy ;-)  

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 (first year had dark tops and green in the bases - still see some around).

Yep, those are mine.

 

As for slow, Tog, I think it's a few reasons. First, I've come to the conclusion that mine are just a little short (when I see 5'3" women raving that the 176s are just right, well, yeah). When they were +3, that was amplified. I had them moved back near 0 before this season, and it did help. The other thing that helped a lot was the new boots ... I have a leg length dealio that hadn't been fully addressed, and it was very noticeable once I did. (duh.)  I also started carrying around some NotWax. So I should probably amend my complaint. 

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IIRC, they changed the base material for this year because the first year or two the bases were deemed "slow". Faulty memory or data may well be in play though.

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IIRC, they changed the base material for this year because the first year or two the bases were deemed "slow". Faulty memory or data may well be in play though.


That could be ... I know (well, at least I read or heard somewhere) that they did change the bases from last season's to this season's S3, due to slow bases. Don't know about the S7s.

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I could easily have convoluted all that... Just had a vague recollection. FWIW - much of my local pro patrol thinks the S7 is the best thing since sliced bread. The one ski to rule it all in terms of their work. They cover some pretty interesting terrain with 200+ known inbounds avy paths...

 

I really need to try a pair one of these days (sigh)

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Obviously a Rossi rep. or something.

 

BUT, I own the ski's, have skied 20 days on them this year and love in powder, trees, crud, crap powder and all consistencies of fluff.  Do not like on steep ice and/or groomers-chatter. Wrote a review here on Epic that was a little less spam than this one.

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Well the person I know spent a week in Jackson on demos. He wasn't able to get them from the dealer out east -sold out, no reorder, but he obtained a pair from Colorado.

He was raving. His first "fat" ski. Frankly, I think he owes me significant time on them since I talked him out a month ago of buying the Blizzard Atlas.

Went something like: "That thing carves really well on groomed, but that's about it. You've already got carvers, skip that thing and get a decent fat ski."  note: I realize 94mm is barely pudgey these days. Of course for a "decent" fat ski I was flumoxed for a recommendation. Oh the choices!...

So, had  I known about the S7 , (maybe I should have read some of these reviews before?), I would've looked like a genius.

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 (first year had dark tops and green in the bases - still see some around).

Yep, those are mine.

 

As for slow, Tog, I think it's a few reasons. First, I've come to the conclusion that mine are just a little short (when I see 5'3" women raving that the 176s are just right, well, yeah). When they were +3, that was amplified. I had them moved back near 0 before this season, and it did help. The other thing that helped a lot was the new boots ... I have a leg length dealio that hadn't been fully addressed, and it was very noticeable once I did. (duh.)  I also started carrying around some NotWax. So I should probably amend my complaint. 

Gosh darn it seg! The bindings, the boots, the legs, the... the bases!...How were you even able to write a review?? rolleyes.gifsmile.gif

So I get  it, one has to tow a pail of NotWax just to keep 'em working?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcvbloW2Syc&feature=fvsr 

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Gosh darn it seg! The bindings, the boots, the legs, the... the bases!...How were you even able to write a review?? rolleyes.gifsmile.gif

So I get  it, one has to tow a pail of NotWax just to keep 'em working?


Heh,well, yeah, so,.... now they are just slow. Extenuating circumstances made them (me) terribly slow. ;-)

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Great ski sketch review

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Well despite the fact that my daughter thinks the S7 is the greatest thing since sliced bread, yea the guy is a shill.
 

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ya, your english is poor. As well I was goign to say it sounds like Rossi is overpaying you for your reviews and expertise. I understand that these skis are great skis, but your review doesn't do them justice. As well, all of your reviews and posts are regarding rossi merchandise.  Rossi (no comma) can I have a cut of his money?

pleasE?


With that said, I'd be careful about sayin' one's use of English is less than perfect. cool.gif
 


Edited by Mr5150 - 1/4/11 at 8:02pm
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I admitted my poor English...maybe you would make me some lessons on it and I will teach you skiing... ok? :)

but the fact is that the skis have no competition...



Hahahahah BURRRNNNNN

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Tog, Skis are out already the 4th season. This year I was on them already 12 times... duel.gif

 

Representative of Rossi? Not for sure other wise I should use Rossi bindings instead of Marker Schizo which are far better solution as Rosi power orrange stuff... Have one pair of them for sale btw... They have not enough wide front jaws for so fat skis.

 

And guys, relax regarding spamming. In the future this will not happen. namely, I did it by mistake... redface.gif

 

Looking forward to your opinion once you really try these skis. 

 

One more thing, I never read any Rossi public document. This is only my observation and understanding the concept of these skis - why they perform as they do. On every underlined parameter which I have exposed would like to hear counter argument and maybe you will make me changing my opinion for a certain percent.

 

And it is not nice that you are joking on my French... roflmao.gif

 

Aloha

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 Borat? Is that you?

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Hey, guys... be friendly... OK?... its not TGR here...  The dude is legitimate and a good skier, so cut him some slack.   

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segebrown - good one... biggrin.gif

 

But, if you speak one language more than English I bet 50k USD... ROTF.gif I learned English while fu...ing English native speaking girls in ski school, mostly from USA... Ask mom if she traveled to my neighborhood ever... yahoo.gif

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segebrown - good one... biggrin.gif

 

But, if you speak one language more than English I bet 50k USD... ROTF.gif I learned English while fu...ing English native speaking girls in ski school, mostly from USA... Ask mom if she traveled to my neighborhood ever... yahoo.gif



eek.gif  (I like Borat, ya know??)

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segebrown - good one... biggrin.gif

 

But, if you speak one language more than English I bet 50k USD... ROTF.gif I learned English while fu...ing English native speaking girls in ski school, mostly from USA... Ask mom if she traveled to my neighborhood ever... yahoo.gif



They're just railing on you because you like Rossis.

 

Nobody likes Rossignols here on Epic.

 

Except myself of course. I've been defending them for ten years now. Still ski a pair of Dirty Birds most of the time.

 

Would like the 7's but too much ice here in the East.

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