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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 

I'm an advanced intermediate to expert skier who likes to hit the jumps.  I do all my skiing in Colorado.  Although I like powder, I typically miss it and seem to spend 9 out of 10 days in the crud.  I spend the majority of my time in the back bowls but also hit the groomers for a bit (60/40).  My current ski is the Volant Genesis V2 - very old but very stable and very heavy.  I'm looking for an All Mountain ski and would like something a little more responsive but also a little wider for the occassional powder day.  I'm 6'1" and 185 pounds.  I'm considering the K2 Xplorer, Head Peak 82 and Rossignol S86 Freeride but it's been so long since I've looked for ski's that I'm really open to any suggestions.  Thoughts?  Thanks.

post #2 of 24

Definitely check out the Dynastar Legend series.  Last season I got the Mythic Rider, which is 88mm at the waist.  It's a total crud-buster and has tons of energy on groomers.  I love the skis.  I'm also 6'1" 185 lbs.  They discontinued the Mythic Rider, but you can try the Sultan 84 or 94, which is probably the same basic ski.  Try before you buy, no matter what.

post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 

I'll check them out.  Appreciate the help.

post #4 of 24

nice to read your post. I have Volant Geneses 165 cm skis and love them. They will be hard to replace. I wish they held better on ice and hard pack, but overall they are great skis, and very stable. I think my next "all mountain" ski will be a race ready competition style GS ski.

 

BTW, I used an app called GPS Speedo a few days ago and went 41 mph on my Volants at Wachusett Mountain... not bad for 59 years old!

 

Best wishes!

post #5 of 24

Elan WaveFlex 82X Ti, 178...this is a gonzo board...try it...you will buy it

post #6 of 24
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Originally Posted by CH47Driver View Post

I'll check them out.  Appreciate the help.



I have a pair of the 178's Mythic Riders that about 30-40 days on them with no base damage that I'll sell you.  I do not like the ski for my everyday hard snow ski.  I prefer a ski with a softer flex up front for the bumps and if I'm skiing true crud (not hardpack) I'll be on my Elan 1010's.    I'll sell them flat or with bindings..they are mounted for 25.5 boot so I assume you would have to get them remounted since almost no one has feet as small as mine. 

 

PM me if interested 

post #7 of 24

If you spend 9 out of 10 days in the crud then Mythics deserve some consideration; by all reports one of the great crud skis.

 

edit: Or the (newer) Sultan series

post #8 of 24

Volkl Unlimited AC50. 

post #9 of 24

I bought Atomic Blackeyes just recently & have only been out once on them, but I was very pleased with their performance - good & stiff, lots of speed & they turn beautifully. I'm off to Tremblant tomorow so I'll have a better idea when I return...

 

Best,

SMD 

post #10 of 24

Dynastar Sultan Legend 85's. Ski of choice for many, many reviews of them on this forum.

post #11 of 24

I have the Sultan 94's .... excellent in crud!

post #12 of 24

Fischer Watea 101's 2011. We were just skiing in Jackson Hole over Christmas and I tried the Fischer Watea 101's 2011 models. Unbelievable. These skis were great on groomers, and great on crappy off piste stuff, responsive and quite stable at medium speeds. We didn't have enough fresh powder to really respond to how they would be, but I would expect good results.  I am 54 yrs old but was a competitive racer for many years and can still do OK. I was very impressed and would certainly recommend and consider these skis. I am 5' 8" and 150 lbs. and skied on the 172 cm. I plan on buying a pair this winter.  Cattman

post #13 of 24

Second the Atomic Blackeye Ti (I assume you're referring to the Ti version, correct me if I'm mistaken).  It has immediately taken over as my eastern one-ski quiver.  For west coast skiing I'd consider the Crimson Ti (88mm underfoot) or the Savage Ti (93mm underfoot).  The Blackeye Ti holds an edge really well even on eastern boilerplate, and can truck right through the late day crud with ease.  I also tried out the Blizzard 8.1 Magnum and found it to be fun in the crud, though a little lacking on the hardpack though that could have been either the tune or me.

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I bought Atomic Blackeyes just recently & have only been out once on them, but I was very pleased with their performance - good & stiff, lots of speed & they turn beautifully. I'm off to Tremblant tomorow so I'll have a better idea when I return...

 

Best,

SMD 

post #14 of 24

I second the Atomic Crimson for true all mountain skiing. Very stable at speed, still fun edge to edge, and quite floaty. In direct contrast, I can't possibly recommend the peak 82s. I and a friend both have this year's models, and they don't seem to excel at anything. 

 

Personally, I'm enjoying my Dynastar Contact Cross Ti skis. They're a bit more narrow in the waist (72) but quite good in moguls, crud, hardpack, and not bad in powder either. And they're fairly easy to coax into a short radius turn.

post #15 of 24

Third the Crimson Ti.

 

I'm on a 169 (at 6' 230) which a lot of of people would say is short, but I've never had an issue with overpowering.  

 

It's great in the trees, and powers through all the Eastern crap at the end of the day.  

 

If you stay on top of them, you really can't go wrong.

post #16 of 24

I'll back up the Mythic Rider recommendation - crud buster extraordinaire, as well as reasonably able in pow, and fun on groomers. One of most favorite skis in 40+ years of downhill.

 

I also have the Sultan's (but the 85's), and I'll ALWAYS take the MR's out over the Sultans on a crud day - Sultan 94's have gotten good reviews on this however so I look forward to seeing if they're going to be my successors to my MR's.

post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by CH47Driver View Post


I'm considering the K2 Xplorer, Head Peak 82 and Rossignol S86 Freeride but it's been so long since I've looked for ski's that I'm really open to any suggestions.  Thoughts?  Thanks.




 


I have read good stuff about the Peak 82 and S86. It is always so hard to decide what to do just from reading reviews. If like myself, you have a hard time demoing the equipment you are interested in, try and buy it used, then if you don't like it you can normally resell it at a small loss similar to a demo fee.
I too have Mythic Riders that I have used as my DD for about the last 20-30 days. I really like that it is a very damp/solid feeling ski compared to some of the lighter more poppy skis I have owned. It is stiffer and wants to make a larger radius turn than many other skis i have owned. That said, my abilities are not so good on them in firm bumps, but they absolutely rule everywhere else. Excellent edge bite for what we call icy conditions in the West and just a very confidence inspiring ski for me. I ride them in a 184 length and I am 5'10". I am thinking of buying a pair of 178? Sultan 85s to compliment the MRs as my firm day ski for on piste snow and bumps. I have been using some Nordica Nitrous for that purpose and would really like something just a tad firmer than they are, hence the Sultan 85s. I hope to demo them at some point, but if I can't, I am pretty sure I will like them and will wait until I can find them new for $500 or less with bindings.
In your shoes, I would go for a wider ski than the Sultan or Peak 82. The mythic at 88 underfoot would be a starting spot. So maybe the Sultan 94? Have you heard of Movement skis? I have loved the skis I have bought from that company and would really recommend you look at the Source or the Sluff. Both would be awesome for what you want. Really in your shoes, I would buy the Source over anything suggested so far.
post #18 of 24

Couldn't agree with you more.  I'm on the 167 blackeye Ti (5'10", 215) and they might be the most fun I've had on skis in a while.  The Atomic Nomad series seems to be a very capable line of skis.  Ran into a guy the other day on the Smoke Tis who was absolutely in love with those.
 

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Third the Crimson Ti.

 

I'm on a 169 (at 6' 230) which a lot of of people would say is short, but I've never had an issue with overpowering.  

 

It's great in the trees, and powers through all the Eastern crap at the end of the day.  

 

If you stay on top of them, you really can't go wrong.

post #19 of 24

IMO....the K2 Rictor. Trust me, you'll love it!!!

post #20 of 24

If you can find a deal...Kastle MX 88...rocks!

post #21 of 24

for a 60/40 rider the Sultan 94 is just as good of a carver as the Sultan 85 only better off piste. I have used the 94s on groomers for full days when I ski with my wife and they are great. When the snow gets deep again no complaints, I have used them in some pretty deep conditions this season they are as close a 1sq as I think you will get especially for the price.

post #22 of 24
Well I got a pair of scott punishers and am in love with them I'm a teen racer and I've got 191's and they are sweet also I've only heard good things about the volkl bridges so as far as one quiver skis for carving, park, powder/backcountry goes that's what I recommend and 2 they are affordable.
post #23 of 24

Volkl Mantra, Line Prophet 100

post #24 of 24

 

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for a 60/40 rider the Sultan 94 is just as good of a carver as the Sultan 85 only better off piste. I have used the 94s on groomers for full days when I ski with my wife and they are great. When the snow gets deep again no complaints, I have used them in some pretty deep conditions this season they are as close a 1sq as I think you will get especially for the price.

 

trouta2 - I'm interested in the Sultan 94 as an everyday ski.  I will be spending a good amount of time skiing with my wife and kids on groomers (and some fairly tame runs at that) and certainly don't want something that is a chore to ski in those situations.  Your comments certainly help to convince me the 94's are a good option. Given their relatively small turn radius it would seem they can turn fairly quickly, but will they do it at low speeds?  Also, what size are you skiing and what size are you?

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