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Looking for the best "freshy's" in SLC Jan 6th - 9th, with no new snowfall in sight .. where do I go ?

post #1 of 27
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Heading to SLC Jan 6th in search of the "Greatest snow on earth" . With no new snow in the forecast where is my best bet to get a little something soft and fresh ? Its always tough when we spend our entire ski budget (from Vermont) and then see a forecast void of POW :-( 

 

I would also love to hear any and all comments on Park City Powder Cats.  Its way over my budget .. but life is short .. so depending on what you all tell me .. I might have to consider it.

 

Thanks... jim

post #2 of 27

I'm heading to SLC the same time you are.  There won't be much real powder to be had but Snowbird and the rest of the cottonwood canyon resorts will be soft and sweet.  The sun is low and the cold weather will preserve the snow quality.  The skiing will be excellent and even though it is not powder you will experience the greatest snow on earth.  You might find a couple powder turns here and there in the trees. 

 

I don't know much about the powder cats, but my advise is that it is not a good value if money is an issue.  Personally, in many trips to SLC I have never thought it worth the bother and will spend my snowcat money elsewhere.  Save the money and use it to roll the dice and make another trip. 

 

It's a gamble, only expect real Utah powder about every 4th trip or so, but the skiing is almost always great mid-winter.  Don't worry, if you have never been out there you will likely experience the best skiing of your life.  The terrain is incredible and the snow will be of a very good quality, although it will be bumpy, but manageable soft bumps. Take what you get and make the best of it. 

 

Saying all that, at Snowbasin the Strawberry lift or coming off the ridges might? yield a few short powder lines. 

 

The forecast gives a chance of snow.  We might get a couple of inches, esp up near the top.  It's gonna be good!

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?site=slc&textField1=40.58194&textField2=-111.65444&zone=1


Edited by SnowbirdDevotee - 1/2/11 at 6:58pm
post #3 of 27

Me too. Get there the 8th and leave the 16th. there's been snow in long range forecast for a while, but the trend in the models has definitely been heading the wrong direction. Hopefully trend reverses soon. although still good sking, definitely would like to see some powder. Thinking this might be the trip to spend a couple of days hiking southern Utah somewhere. 

post #4 of 27

Alta/Bird is the best skiing, but it will be pretty shredded by then.  Powder Mountain is fairly mellow, but I bet you could still find fresh tracks.

Just do one lap on the cat to say you did, then spend the rest of the time lapping the bus. 

post #5 of 27

For what it's worth, I made my first trip to SLC in 2009 in search of the Utah POW, but arrived to spring-like conditions and sunny skies.  Even though it hadn't snowed in about a week, it was still a fantastic experience.  We skied Snowbird and The Canyons and had a blast at both spots.

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For what it's worth, I made my first trip to SLC in 2009 in search of the Utah POW, but arrived to spring-like conditions and sunny skies.  Even though it hadn't snowed in about a week, it was still a fantastic experience.  We skied Snowbird and The Canyons and had a blast at both spots.


Same thing with my Feb 2007 trip...sunny skies in the high 30's/low 40's for my four days of skiing.  I will be in PC again skiing various resorts for four days....1/12-1/16.  It looks like this week's high pressure comes in but should be moving out by this weekend.  I actually thought the long-term (one week plus out) looked pretty good for storms but perhaps some local UT weather watchers could chime in.  How is the short/mid term weather looking?

 

EDIT:  I just checked out this site which mentioned mid/long term models not looking all that good now.  Obviously things can change in a hurry. 

 

http://utahavalanchecenter.org/mountain_weather_central_wasatch


Edited by gores95 - 1/3/11 at 1:29pm
post #7 of 27

Nothing big in the forecast over the next several days ;(

 

The good news is that it has been quite cold over the last 7 - 10 days, so the snow is still soft.  The best snow will be in LCC/BCC due to the elevation, but all areas should be very good.

post #8 of 27

Very uncertain the forecast is. (Yoda speak) The GFS models are all over the place in terms of whether any precip gets in or not. The NOAA Climate prediction center which does medium and long range forecast has a prediciton with discussion doe 6-10 and 8-14 days out. Their prediciton is for above ave. precip for northern rockies including N. Utah. N. Utah is on fringes of it, but in there. I hope they are correct. will have to get closer to really know.  

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Hope the dry day forecast is correct. I used to look at it, but given how far in advance, they do the forecast, it sounds too much like voodoo. But given that their forecast is right in sweet spot for me, I hope it's good voodoo.

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rolleyes.gif. weather predicters can't get tomorrow (or even today) right but we have a month forecast. rolleyes.gif.

 

Anyway, at The Crayons today, and it was not great. After a couple of runs headed back to the car and traded my ObSETHed's for Mythic Riders. Hard and crunchy are the best words to describe it. If there's no freshies in a week it'll be like least coast skiing - all hard and scrapy.

 

Going to either Snowbasin or Snowbird tomorrow to see if it's not so marginal. I remember the first week in Jan last year suckethed too. Without anything in the forecast, it's not going to be great at all.

post #12 of 27
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Alta/Bird is the best skiing, but it will be pretty shredded by then.  Powder Mountain is fairly mellow, but I bet you could still find fresh tracks.

Just do one lap on the cat to say you did, then spend the rest of the time lapping the bus. 

 

Yeah, if it really hasn't/doesn't snow, Powder Mountain is probably your only bet for finding some fresh snow. In addition to Lightning Ridge and Powder Country, try hiking into Cobabe from the Sunrise T-Bar; there's a ton of terrain out there, and I usually find some fresh tracks even if it hasn't snowed in a while. Powder's also got full-day snowcats and helicopters (last time I checked you could buy one heli-ride for like 125 bucks, but I don't know all the details).

 


 

post #13 of 27
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but given how far in advance, they do the forecast, it sounds too much like voodoo. But given that their forecast is right in sweet spot for me, I hope it's good voodoo.


Steve, scientists have now figured out how to predict the weather for a century in advance, one month in advance is nothing.

post #14 of 27

I better plan next year's ski trips then. I think I will just shoot for the periods when it will snow. Don't know why I didn't figure this out sooner.

post #15 of 27

NWS now saying there should be some snow Sat. into Sunday. Great.

post #16 of 27
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NWS now saying there should be some snow Sat. into Sunday. Great.



Yup these things change daily!!!!  Looking better beginning this weekend....stay tuned!

 

http://utahavalanchecenter.org/mountain_weather_central_wasatch

post #17 of 27
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NWS now saying there should be some snow Sat. into Sunday. Great.



Yep ... and it looks like it could be more than "some snow". 

From NWS:  A strong cold front is now forecast for Saturday afternoon followed by a cold moist northwest flow that lasts into Monday. This system could produce significant snow amounts.

 

This may be a bit late for skierdad, though.

post #18 of 27

Just back from Snowbasin, and it's windblown on top of crust. Groomerville unfortunately as off-piste will rattle your teeth. When the sun hit it for a while you could get some edges onto the top of Strawberry, but don't rent any uber-rocker skis or you'll have a miserable day. About the only real positive I have is that it's better than last year at this time, but that's about it.

 

At The Crayons it was the same - essentially a decent least coast day but not much better. Bring some carvers and sharpen the edges.

 

Up to Snowbird tomorrow so let's see about that.

post #19 of 27

This weekend's storm looking pretty wimpy. Hopefully, it drops more than expected. Looks like groomers. Still better than work.

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Just back from Snowbasin, and it's windblown on top of crust. Groomerville unfortunately as off-piste will rattle your teeth. When the sun hit it for a while you could get some edges onto the top of Strawberry, but don't rent any uber-rocker skis or you'll have a miserable day. About the only real positive I have is that it's better than last year at this time, but that's about it.


Wow, as they say "one mans garbage is another's treasure".  The temps have stayed cold since the last storm, not a hint of ice anywhere IMO.  The wind has blown, making some areas a little rough, & others smooth as silk.  Coverage is great.  I would say that skiing is great!  Your comments sound a lot like some of the spoiled Utah natives I know.  If it is not at least a foot of untracked blower pow, it sucks.  Truth is that is just not the real world.  From my point of view, there is tons of great off piste skiing to be had, you just have to know where to look.  If you are a groomer cruiser, it is about as good as it gets.  I just cannot complain about cold dry snow.  It beats frozen coral heads anytime.

Thanks,

JF

post #21 of 27

Go to Powder Mountain and hike. I mean inbound hiking.  We've found plenty of powder there 2 weeks after storms. You're actually within a week of a storm.  Even if it's windblown there's always some aspect or tree shot that's got the goods.  Ask the patrol or a local if you're not sure where to go.  You may need to get picked up by the bus, but its real easy.

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Just back from Snowbasin, and it's windblown on top of crust. Groomerville unfortunately as off-piste will rattle your teeth. When the sun hit it for a while you could get some edges onto the top of Strawberry, but don't rent any uber-rocker skis or you'll have a miserable day. About the only real positive I have is that it's better than last year at this time, but that's about it.


WYour comments sound a lot like some of the spoiled Utah natives I know.  If it is not at least a foot of untracked blower pow, it sucks.  Truth is that is just not the real world.  From my point of view, there is tons of great off piste skiing to be had, you just have to know where to look.  If you are a groomer cruiser, it is about as good as it gets.  I just cannot complain about cold dry snow.  It beats frozen coral heads anytime.

Thanks,

JF


Apparently you know more than the Snowbasin mountain hosts and patrol, as they concurred that there was little to be found off the groomers that wasn't dust on crust. Oh, probably they're "spoiled Utah natives" too. If you think Snowbasin was "as good as it gets for groomers" today, well, I seen a LOT better ( and I mean a LOT better) so apparently we're not speaking the same language. OK dust on crust just isn't what I go to Utah for, but apparently that's just me rolleyes.gif. One patrol even got on Needles gondola with his old K2 Axispro's (like the ones I had last decade), with his comment being "why waste putting miles on my real skis for this stuff". OK, it's just me...............

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Apparently you know more than the Snowbasin mountain hosts and patrol, as they concurred that there was little to be found off the groomers that wasn't dust on crust. Oh, probably they're "spoiled Utah natives" too. If you think Snowbasin was "as good as it gets for groomers" today, well, I seen a LOT better ( and I mean a LOT better) so apparently we're not speaking the same language. OK dust on crust just isn't what I go to Utah for, but apparently that's just me rolleyes.gif. One patrol even got on Needles gondola with his old K2 Axispro's (like the ones I had last decade), with his comment being "why waste putting miles on my real skis for this stuff". OK, it's just me...............


Did you take a skid on the crust and get your polypro all twisted up your crack? It dumped two feet a week ago, it definitely wasn't as bad as you're making it out to be. But to each his own... I tend to take a little more stock in what the guy who posts TRs from the mountain every week has to say, but I guess that's just me...

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". OK, it's just me...............


No, it's probably just me.  I can't help it if I like a variety of conditions.

Sorry that you had a less than stellar day. 

I am guessing the light was a little flat, which it was on Tuesday afternoon.  Sunshine yesterday & it looks like more today.

 

JF

post #25 of 27
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Well our east coast group had our first day today in UT .. and it far exceeded expectations .. having said that, they were a little low after reading some of the earlier posts :-(

We skied Brighton, total Blue Bird day .. warm, sunny and no wind .. or ANY crowds. The groomers were great, no chatter .. soft and improved as the day went on.

Fresh turns where found every run in tree's .. you had to poke around a bit to find it .. but it was well worth the effort .. all in all a GREAT day !

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Apparently you know more than the Snowbasin mountain hosts and patrol, as they concurred that there was little to be found off the groomers that wasn't dust on crust. Oh, probably they're "spoiled Utah natives" too. If you think Snowbasin was "as good as it gets for groomers" today, well, I seen a LOT better ( and I mean a LOT better) so apparently we're not speaking the same language. OK dust on crust just isn't what I go to Utah for, but apparently that's just me rolleyes.gif. One patrol even got on Needles gondola with his old K2 Axispro's (like the ones I had last decade), with his comment being "why waste putting miles on my real skis for this stuff". OK, it's just me...............


Did you take a skid on the crust and get your polypro all twisted up your crack? It dumped two feet a week ago, it definitely wasn't as bad as you're making it out to be. But to each his own... I tend to take a little more stock in what the guy who posts TRs from the mountain every week has to say, but I guess that's just me...


Yes, it dumped two feet ago, then the Christmas hords skied on it, and packed it down and it wasn't pow no more ( rolleyes.gif funny how that happens huh? Go figure). 20-30mph winds on Wed. took the fluffy stuff on top and blew it away, leaving a very crusty surface - couldn't care less what you put stock in if you thought Wed was good at Snowbasin, but, again, that's just me......


 

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". OK, it's just me...............


No, it's probably just me.  I can't help it if I like a variety of conditions.

Sorry that you had a less than stellar day. 

I am guessing the light was a little flat, which it was on Tuesday afternoon.  Sunshine yesterday & it looks like more today.

 

JF


Light was good on Wed. Surface wasn't.

 


 

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Well our east coast group had our first day today in UT .. and it far exceeded expectations .. having said that, they were a little low after reading some of the earlier posts :-(

We skied Brighton, total Blue Bird day .. warm, sunny and no wind .. or ANY crowds. The groomers were great, no chatter .. soft and improved as the day went on.

Fresh turns where found every run in tree's .. you had to poke around a bit to find it .. but it was well worth the effort .. all in all a GREAT day !


Glad you had a good time. Went to The Crayons today and the condition improved dramatically over earlier this week. If you're going there, stay over to the Dreamscape side, and the snow is quite acceptable, far better than Mon-Tues. Maybe the weeks sunshine softened it, but it was pretty good. The stuff off Tombstone, not so good.

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I skied Snowbird on Friday and it was just perfect.  There was no fresh powder, but the entire mtn was sweet.  In most places the moguls have not really built up too much, and where they have, they are soft and quite manageable. Even the crud, the skied out wind packed ungroomed slopes, in the bowls skied just fine.   All lifts have only minimal lines, if any.

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