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post #1 of 25
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A friend is looking for new skis.  She's been skiing for 40-odd years, but is pretty gear-indifferent.  Recently, though, people on the mountain have been calling her "ma'am," and she wonders if the old straight skis are making a bad impression.  Anyway, she's looking (and I'll bet she'll be pleased with what's gone on since she last bought skis).

 

She's 5' 7", 145, wants an all-mountain Eastern ski (I'm thinking narrowish mid-fat, 85 +-), good in crud, a good turner, predictable on ice, groomers mostly, diamonds (though she's no shredder), some bumps and trees.  She's had knee issues and would appreciate a forgiving ski.  A current model would be unaffordable -- anything in the last couple of years would work.

 

I've mentioned Legend Sultan 85s as a possibility, but it isn't a woman-specific ski, so I don't know.  Any advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 25

If your friend is primarily an east coast on-piste skier I think looking in the 85mm+ waist might be unsuitable. A good east coast all mountain ski for her would probably be in the 74-82mm waist variety, especially if she's looking for something decently turny. Something that would be helpful to know is which type of skier is more - finesse or power? Does she like a "lively" or "poppy" ski, or something more damp. There are a lot of good choices out there, especially in previous year models, but you wanna make sure the ski will really suit her. If you could get her to demo some skis that would be great. Many ski models have not changed much over the past several years other than graphics.

post #3 of 25
Thread Starter 

 

Thanks Persee.  I'll run your questions by her and get back to you.

post #4 of 25
Thread Starter 

 

 

Ok, we're back.  She's more finesse, she says, than power, but she isn't sure about dampness/liveliness.  So I'm thinking that, if finesse, then damp.  She has narrow-waisted skis currently (an old pair of Bandits, I think she said), and is thinking a little wider (we do ski mid-fats in the east, if they're grippy), so I guess 80-85ish.  Some bumps and trees, diamonds (but not extreme).  She wants a smooth, predictable performer -- and I guess a women's ski.

 

Does that help?  Thanks again!

 

post #5 of 25

Ok. One ski that immediately comes to mind would be the K2 Lotta Luv (from it's inception to last year, they changed this year). This is a damper ski, 82mm under foot, but definitely a turny ski. It does well in bumps, and should be good in the trees, but it will still grip on ice. Since the ski was the same for roughly 5 model years the selection of used should be good. Also if you find it with the Integrated Binding system, adjusting the binding to her boots should be a breeze. Also if forgiveness is of interest I will mention that my first time on a pair of these would have been when I was somewhere in the 5-6 level of skiing and they did not kick my butt. Since then I've advanced and can say that as forgiving and tolerant as they were to me then, having taken them out more recently they were equally enjoyable to me with my improved form.

 

From what I know of them some of the Dynastar Womens skis would be a good match, but I would have a harder time making a recommendation as I haven't skied any of them extensively and they also have had a knack for changing model names.

post #6 of 25
Thread Starter 

 

Thanks persee.  I've heard about the Lotta Love.  Many women love them.  I'll mention it to her and see what she says.  Thanks for pitching in!

 

lp

post #7 of 25

Also look at Salomon Lady, Rossi S80W (same as previous voodoo SC80, which you can find on clearance), Dynastar Exclusive Legend Idyll.

post #8 of 25

I had an older woman student a few weeks ago who was skiing Rossi S86W and really liked them.  I have no idea how they would handle eastern hardpack/ice but she said they were very easy to turn and they seemed to work pretty well in the bumps which is what she wanted to work on.  She was definitely a finesse skier, didn't try to muscle her way through anything.

post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by lakespapa View Post

 

A friend is looking for new skis.  She's been skiing for 40-odd years, but is pretty gear-indifferent.  Recently, though, people on the mountain have been calling her "ma'am," and she wonders if the old straight skis are making a bad impression.  Anyway, she's looking (and I'll bet she'll be pleased with what's gone on since she last bought skis).

 

She's 5' 7", 145, wants an all-mountain Eastern ski (I'm thinking narrowish mid-fat, 85 +-), good in crud, a good turner, predictable on ice, groomers mostly, diamonds (though she's no shredder), some bumps and trees.  She's had knee issues and would appreciate a forgiving ski.  A current model would be unaffordable -- anything in the last couple of years would work.

 

I've mentioned Legend Sultan 85s as a possibility, but it isn't a woman-specific ski, so I don't know.  Any advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks!


I have no idea how I missed this thread but here it goes.........

First and foremost make sure she is in good fitting boots, hopefully something more contemporary than Raichle Rear entry boots, and then encourage her to demo if she can.  If demo'ing is not easy to come by then take some of these things into consideration.

When she goes from her long straight skis, she'll probably find the new shorter shapelier skis to be funner, easier to turn and some times too easy to turn, so a lesson may be a good thing for her first day on the new skis.

 

A midfat in the 80's is a bit more than I'd suggest for an every day ski for this lady, mostly because she's coming off skinny skis.  I'd think she's like something a bit more edgeable, and in fact I'd suggest something more like the Blizzard Viva 7.6 (76 under foot), the Rossi Attraction 8 (which was one of the skis that surprised me most this season during demos), the Nordica Infinite, or K2 Free Luv.

 

 

You could almost throw a dart at that line up of skis and put a big grin on her face.

I should close in saying FWIW and YMMV

post #10 of 25

Trekchick, in a followup he indicated that she was skiing on an older pair of Rossi(?) bandits. So not current, but not an old straight skinny ski either - unless the bandit name goes back farther than I recall.

post #11 of 25

Ooof, I thought I read the whole thread but must have missed a bit.  Color me embarrassed.redface.gif

 

Now reading this 

 

 

 

Quote:

Ok, we're back.  She's more finesse, she says, than power, but she isn't sure about dampness/liveliness.  So I'm thinking that, if finesse, then damp.  She has narrow-waisted skis currently (an old pair of Bandits, I think she said), and is thinking a little wider (we do ski mid-fats in the east, if they're grippy), so I guess 80-85ish.  Some bumps and trees, diamonds (but not extreme).  She wants a smooth, predictable performer -- and I guess a women's ski.

 

Does that help?  Thanks again!

 

Finesse ski with grip would be something like the Kastle FX84 or LX 82, not really damp but not something that gives unnecessary feedback either.

How's that for a clear and direct recommendation?  biggrin.gif

 

These are skis that will wow your friend.

 

 

 

post #12 of 25
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Finesse ski with grip would be something like the Kastle FX84 or LX 82, not really damp but not something that gives unnecessary feedback either.

How's that for a clear and direct recommendation?  biggrin.gif

 

These are skis that will wow your friend.

 

 

 


 

definitely a great ski, but you forgot the part where he said " A current model would be unaffordable -- anything in the last couple of years would work."

 

Kastle, even used, is pretty expensive.

post #13 of 25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

 

Finesse ski with grip would be something like the Kastle FX84 or LX 82, not really damp but not something that gives unnecessary feedback either.

How's that for a clear and direct recommendation?  biggrin.gif

 

These are skis that will wow your friend.

 

 

 


 

definitely a great ski, but you forgot the part where he said " A current model would be unaffordable -- anything in the last couple of years would work."

 

Kastle, even used, is pretty expensive.


Hey TC,

 

Wondered when you'd show up!  -- by the way, my wife adores the Exclusive Legends you recommended.

 

Our friend's in a single-mother, mostly-making-ends-meet situation; I doubt she'll be buying Kastles (though I know she'd love them), and demoing isn't affordable for her either.  It'll have to be the best ski she can get for the best price.  

 

Persee mentioned Lotta Luvs, which women seem to like.  The prices for older models seem highish ($500 for a new 2007) compared to, say, 2010 Dynastar Exclusive models (like the Eden -- $430 w/ bindings).  I'm guessing there are other possibilities, too. Any thoughts for a less-than-ideal reality?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #14 of 25

My daughter liked the Exclusive Elites she tried, but they may be too stiff for some purposes, so a slightly wider and softer Exclusive (active or legend maybe) model should work well for your friend.

post #15 of 25
Thread Starter 

 

 

Thanks Ghost.  My wife has the Legend, and she's a decent skier, but our friend might appreciate a more advanced ski.  I probably ought to have her try my wife's, though at 158 they'd be a little short for her (she's 145 at 5'7''; my wife is 120, 5'4") -- it would take a binding rearrangement I suppose. Hm.

post #16 of 25

I'm disappointed you're finding such high prices on the Lottas. I know I've been able to find them much cheaper - I almost came home with a pair of them for $250ish last year when I was in Vail... Unfortunately I wasn't really looking last time I was up in NH to see what I might find. I will keep my eyes out around NE.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

 

Finesse ski with grip would be something like the Kastle FX84 or LX 82, not really damp but not something that gives unnecessary feedback either.

How's that for a clear and direct recommendation?  biggrin.gif

 

These are skis that will wow your friend.

 

 

 


 

definitely a great ski, but you forgot the part where he said " A current model would be unaffordable -- anything in the last couple of years would work."

 

Kastle, even used, is pretty expensive.


Hey TC,

 

Wondered when you'd show up!  -- by the way, my wife adores the Exclusive Legends you recommended.

 

Our friend's in a single-mother, mostly-making-ends-meet situation; I doubt she'll be buying Kastles (though I know she'd love them), and demoing isn't affordable for her either.  It'll have to be the best ski she can get for the best price.  

 

Persee mentioned Lotta Luvs, which women seem to like.  The prices for older models seem highish ($500 for a new 2007) compared to, say, 2010 Dynastar Exclusive models (like the Eden -- $430 w/ bindings).  I'm guessing there are other possibilities, too. Any thoughts for a less-than-ideal reality?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry it took me so long.  I took a wrong turn at the off ramp and ............. smile.gif

 

The Eden is a great go to ski in that category and usually over looked because K2 skis have such a profound following.  This also means that the Eden's may be a bit more affordable when you find a used model for sale.

 

FWIW, Most of these skis are revamped this season and are wowing the women who are trying them.

What length are we talking about?  

I know where there's a heluva deal on a 2010 Blizzard 8.1 in a 165.  PM me if you're interested.

post #18 of 25


 

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FWIW, Most of these skis are revamped this season and are wowing the women who are trying them.

What length are we talking about?  

I know where there's a heluva deal on a 2010 Blizzard 8.1 in a 165.  PM me if you're interested.



I don't think I'd really categorize the Blizzard Viva 8.1 as a light or a "damp" ski. Blizz got most of their current tech team from Volkl, so the new Blizz are very similar to the slightly older Volkls.

 

Don't get me wrong. I think it's a great ski and one that I personally would be considering if I were in the market right now for an all-mountain ski (my 2008 Tierras still have plenty of life, so they won't be replaced yet). However, I'm not sure it is necessarily a good match for what his friend would be looking for.

post #19 of 25

http://denver.craigslist.org/spo/2126683578.html

 

This seems like a great deal, even if you have to pay for shipping.

post #20 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

 

FWIW, Most of these skis are revamped this season and are wowing the women who are trying them.

What length are we talking about?  

I know where there's a heluva deal on a 2010 Blizzard 8.1 in a 165.  PM me if you're interested.



I don't think I'd really categorize the Blizzard Viva 8.1 as a light or a "damp" ski. Blizz got most of their current tech team from Volkl, so the new Blizz are very similar to the slightly older Volkls.

 

Don't get me wrong. I think it's a great ski and one that I personally would be considering if I were in the market right now for an all-mountain ski (my 2008 Tierras still have plenty of life, so they won't be replaced yet). However, I'm not sure it is necessarily a good match for what his friend would be looking for.


Yeah, I wondered.  They do sound like great ski, but maybe a little hot for what she wants -- though she could handle it, I'm sure.  I linked her some descriptions, though, so I'll let her tell me!

 

Thanks Persee.

post #21 of 25
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http://denver.craigslist.org/spo/2126683578.html

 

This seems like a great deal, even if you have to pay for shipping.



Fantastic deal.  So fantastic they're gone already.  Bummer.

post #22 of 25
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I have no idea how I missed this thread but here it goes.........

First and foremost make sure she is in good fitting boots, hopefully something more contemporary than Raichle Rear entry boots, and then encourage her to demo if she can.  If demo'ing is not easy to come by then take some of these things into consideration.

When she goes from her long straight skis, she'll probably find the new shorter shapelier skis to be funner, easier to turn and some times too easy to turn, so a lesson may be a good thing for her first day on the new skis.

 

A midfat in the 80's is a bit more than I'd suggest for an every day ski for this lady, mostly because she's coming off skinny skis.  I'd think she's like something a bit more edgeable, and in fact I'd suggest something more like the Blizzard Viva 7.6 (76 under foot), the Rossi Attraction 8 (which was one of the skis that surprised me most this season during demos), the Nordica Infinite, or K2 Free Luv.

 

 

You could almost throw a dart at that line up of skis and put a big grin on her face.

I should close in saying FWIW and YMMV

Trying to find some advice for a friend of mine...More difficult to find data for women skis...

Since this thread date a little bit...  What would be your recommendations for an eastcoast skier ( 148 pounds, 5.7 feet, intermediate)? She likes trees, moguls and groomed and want skis with more teeth; I'm looking for a 70/30...

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post #23 of 25
Thread Starter 

Hi Mogsie,

 

You might have better luck starting a new thread -- this one's kind of old!

post #24 of 25
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Trying to find some advice for a friend of mine...More difficult to find data for women skis...

Since this thread date a little bit...  What would be your recommendations for an eastcoast skier ( 148 pounds, 5.7 feet, intermediate)? She likes trees, moguls and groomed and want skis with more teeth; I'm looking for a 70/30...

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Hmmmm,  A couple skis come to mind, assuming you meand 70 groomed, 30 off-piste. 

 

No surprise, the Blizzard Black Pearl is at the top of my list in this category.  I'd also suggest the Nordica Wild Belle, Atomic Elysian, Blizzard 8.0Viva, (and some others may come to mind as I think on it a bit more.  

 

What these skis have in common is that they're all good all mountain skis, some with more of an on piste bias some with more of an off piste bias, but all are going to work well for a big range of skiing, including bumps and trees. 

post #25 of 25

Thanks Trekchick! I've started a new post (lakespapa is right) and transcript yours suggestions...

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/114655/suggestions-on-women-skis-for-the-east-coast-1-ski-quiver

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