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Where in US should I bring expert european skier?

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help!  need some advice where to bring someone for a great ski experience in the US.  Challenging terrain being the objective.  anyone?

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Jackson. Snowbird. Big Sky. Crested Butte.
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Squaw Valley: www.squaw.com

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I second Squaw as well as Alpine Meadows and Sugar Bowl. 

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my vote is for snowbird.  better snow and better terrain (imho) than squaw

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Jackson Snowbird Mammoth
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Expert European skier? From my experiences with those, I'd suggest Sol Vista.

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Squaw, Snowbird, Jackson so they can enjoy lots of fresh snow and big uncrowded lines, the one thing they may not have access to in Europe. I always saw quite a few Europeans in Snowbird-Alta when I skied there.

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that's really a question that begs the other question:  Who said they were experts?  Experts skiing what?  What do they ski now?  What are thier expectations?

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I would say either Jackson or the Wasatch resorts. My favorite would be Jackson for both great skiing and a look at an American national Park.

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It also begs the question of what do they expect when coming to ski the US? To be honest, having skied in the Alps, most US resorts are small and expensive...

 

The one thing we have here over Europe is the reliable great snow condition!

 

For best snow, Utah probably is probably the most reliable and pretty challenging terrain. Unfortunately, anyone coming from Europe would find all the Utah resort tiny... 

 

Jackson Hole has great terrain, with fantastic views. But snow condition is less reliable

 

Tahoe and Mommoth has something different. The Sierra cement everyone here curse actually stick to steep faces better, making for much steeper inbound terrain. So if steep is what they're after, that might be the best.

 

The Southern Rockies areas such as Taos, Crested Butte and Telluride has a very different scenary and terrain, so could be interesting also.

 

Haven't been to Big Sky so can't comment on that.

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Expert that only ski's the piste or an expert that ski's the whole mountain?

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help!  need some advice where to bring someone for a great ski experience in the US.  Challenging terrain being the objective.  anyone?



I'd take him to the J-Bar in Aspen, so he can get a flavor of the USA.  Then ski AJAX.

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Squaw Valley, Jackson Hole, Snowbird/Alta.  

 

Squaw for steeps and the Squallywood atmosphere,  Snowbird for Utah powder, Jackson for the big mountain experience.  All three places have plenty of terrain to kick anyone's butt, regardless of skill level.

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Anywhere they don't have to take off their damn skis and walk through town in ski boots to get back on the lift.  What a concept!

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Anywhere they don't have to take off their damn skis and walk through town in ski boots to get back on the lift.  What a concept!



For that, there's always the "cat-tracks" (you know, those rubbery thingies that one puts underneath the boots soles ;-) )

 

As for the question..if they're really experts, don't worry too much, I'd say anywhere which will be unique to the American way of skiing will do. But avoid crowded places, don't really know, but as an example (from what I read here) Killington would be too much similar to whatwe have here in Europe.

 

Happy New Year!

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I would vote for Jackson Hole. It is unlike any european resort. The cowboy backdrop meets the snowy immensity of the Tetons is unlike any experience they will have had back home. Trust me, I grew up skiing in Europe. JH is unique because of its location and history.
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Agreed!  And then take him to the Highlands for Steeple Chase, Temerity, and the Bowl, and then to Snowmass for the Cirque and the Wall.

 

AspenSnowmass is perfect, because even power-skiing Euros like a nice meal!  And some nightlife!  
 

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I'd take him to the J-Bar in Aspen, so he can get a flavor of the USA.  Then ski AJAX.

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Hah Hah ! Whistler. as in W/B.

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Hah Hah ! Whistler. as in W/B.



Last I looked, WB isn't in US.

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I would vote for Jackson Hole. It is unlike any european resort. The cowboy backdrop meets the snowy immensity of the Tetons is unlike any experience they will have had back home. Trust me, I grew up skiing in Europe. JH is unique because of its location and history.

I agree with this. (except the part about growing up skiing in europe...)
 

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As for the question..if they're really experts, don't worry too much, I'd say anywhere which will be unique to the American way of skiing will do. But avoid crowded places, don't really know, but as an example (from what I read here) Killington would be too much similar to whatwe have here in Europe.

 

Happy New Year!

No, don't worry, Killington is nothing like Europe!

I once called Les Deux Alpes the Killington of the Alps, but only because the town is new.

Avoid East Coast at all costs. Do not be deluded by places like Stowe. (do I really need to say this?)

 

Jackson if they don't care about town. Aspen/Snowmass if they do.
How about a tour?
Snowbird - Aspen- Jackson
If just one, Jackson - this year is good there.
 
Tell them that if they push and shove in line as in Europe they'll probably get a beat down at some point.

 

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I think you could really blow them away by going to either Jackson or Big Sky AND tying in a 2 day visit to Yellowstone.  From Big Sky, it is 40 miles to West Yellowstone, where you can catch a snow coach to the Old Faithful Snow Lodge.  It's a bit farther from Jackson (about 65 miles to Flagg Ranch, where you pick up a snow coach), but you gett to see the Tetons in their full winter glory.  You can then do some ski touring, or take a snowmobile trip around the park.  Yellowstone is an amazing place in any season, particularly for a European, but in winter it is truly magical. 

 

That would be a trip any European, or American for that matter, would never forget.

 

Mike

post #24 of 28

Definitely take him to Big Sky, MT. Fly into Bozeman and drive to Big Sky. It's not as pricey as Jackson, it's got really challenging terrain off the lone peak tram, and hey its the "Biggest Skiing In America". 

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I think you could really blow them away by going to either Jackson or Big Sky AND tying in a 2 day visit to Yellowstone.  From Big Sky, it is 40 miles to West Yellowstone, where you can catch a snow coach to the Old Faithful Snow Lodge.  It's a bit farther from Jackson (about 65 miles to Flagg Ranch, where you pick up a snow coach), but you gett to see the Tetons in their full winter glory.  You can then do some ski touring, or take a snowmobile trip around the park.  Yellowstone is an amazing place in any season, particularly for a European, but in winter it is truly magical. 

 

That would be a trip any European, or American for that matter, would never forget.

 

Mike



icon14.gif I would second this if you want to give them a memorable American experience they would find nowhere else. On the other hand if you only want to show them what a typically American ski area is like you should take them to someplace like Killington! 

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Second or third that.  The elk, moose and bison just sort of stand around in the winter.  You can see them very close, in all their winter fur. There are overnight accomodations at Old Faithful.

You won't see that in Chamonix.

post #27 of 28

So it's settled? (note the OP hasn't been around)

A great experience: Jackson coupled with a day trip at least to Yellowstone.

Wanting to destroy the relationship? : Take them to Killington. Unless they're British. Somehow they seem to like it.

Well of course if they're Snoop Dog fans, they can see him at Killington on Jan. 29th:

http://www.picklebarrelnightclub.com/2011/01/29/snoop-dogg/

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I'm one that has always disliked the way ski resorts label runs beginner, intermediate, and expert, aka green, blue, and black.  Not surprisingly many that have little clue on the criteria of standard skiing skill levels and spend most of their times negotiating black diamond piste trails would generalize themselves as experts.  Even though one can watch most skiers on say moguls, steeps, race courses, powder, and  chutes and only a minor percentage ski particularly strong.  And some may be strong on some terrain and snow and weak on others.  The usual male ego responding tersely is apt to err on the side of "I'm an Expert".  So if one is going to ask such a question on a board like this, one best bother to qualify what expert means.   There are many places both in the Alps and USA where bringing a typical black diamond skier to look over a brink may result in them soiling their trousers.

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