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Stiffness of Technica Carbon Icon boots

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I am a 165 lb expert skiier. I have been skiing on Technica Carbon Icon boots with the firm inserts for several years. I enjoy the boots but I am considering replacing them. I live in Hawaii and do not want to spend much of my precious ski time hunting for boots when I visit the mainland for ski trips.

 

I see that the new boots have stiffness scales for them. I understand that this is somewhat subjective however I wondered if anyone had and idea what the stiffness of my icons would be on the current scales. They seem about right to me.

 

I guess a bigger question is if boot performance has improved over the past few years. I am interested in performance more than comfort. (Most of my 45 years of skiing have been on boots I had to unbuckle while on the chair lift.) I rent high performance ski  demos, so I know skiies have improved. Boots always look pretty much the same to me.

 

Any recomendations on all mountain boots to replace my icons would be appreciated.

 

Thanks

post #2 of 8

The Tecnica Carbon with the stiff inserts is probably around 140 -150 flex, although as you mentioned, somewhat of a subjective scale.     IMHO, given your weight, it is quite stiff.

The Carbon is a fairly narrow lasted boot; do you have a narrow(low volume) foot?

If so, the Tecnica Diablo Race Pro (110-130)  would probably suit you quite well.

I weigh about 160#s and ski the Tecnica Diablo Pro Race(110-120) flex. I used to ski a softer version of the Icon.

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current models, the Diablo Race Pro has the same shell as the Agent 130, but the Agent has a much warmer and more comfortable liner. I ski the Agent 130 and prefer it to a pure race plug boot because I like the liner.

 

I skied the Icon for about 6 seasons, went through two  pairs. I'd say they are 120 to 130 stiffness, just an approximation, but by the time the boots were a few seasons old the plastic really hardened a lot, upping the stiffness considerably, but not in a good way, being also prone to cracking and tearing. Old plastic is not a good thing in a boot.

 

I guess Technicas may be narrow, but compared to what?  Many other boots are more narrow. Most of us get into how narrow the boot is when checking fit around the ball of the foot or the heel. Check that it's a good shell fit, then get it stretched (punched) as needed.

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Thanks for your advise. My feet are average size (9D) not real narrow. The current Tecnica web site does not list the agent 130. The stiffest non race boot listed is the Dragon 120 hyperfit. I have been trying to figure out the difference between the Tecnica  race boots and stiff all mountain boots. Is it mainly the thinkness of the liner and weight? The web site does not give weight. I would like to go to a shop with as much knowlege as I can. The guys selling boots don't always know as much as I want them to. 

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Originally Posted by davluri View Post




I guess Technicas may be narrow, but compared to what?  Many other boots are more narrow. Most of us get into how narrow the boot is when checking fit around the ball of the foot or the heel. Check that it's a good shell fit, then get it stretched (punched) as needed.




 


I have skied Tecnica boots for about the last 5 years and did not think they were narrow as frankly I have a fairly average to slightly wider forefoot and a high arch. That said, I have been using the 120 flex Dragons for the last 3 seasons and really like them. Why not stick with the brand the fits your foot?
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yeah, you've become an expert. stick with what got you there. I don't even know if the Agent series is still made. Technica's new top boot is a bright, pure, opaque orange color. gone are all the translucent models I think. My lovely clear turned yellowish clear in one season. that could be the thinking on the new orange. boots don't generally change substantially every year, though they may look different. they evolve quite slowly overall, with occasional technological improvements. they are now evolving some models engineered to compliment new ski design, symetrical sidecut skis, hybrid and full rocker skis, and so forth. more centered and upright, somewhat softer in the high end models that were always very stiff in the recent past.

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The problem is that the plastic was starting to break down when I put them away last spring. I broke one the cuffs completly off  another pair of Technicas a few years ago while on a ski trip.  I'm afraid I may be forced to get a new pair of boots and want to have some knowledge now instead of doing research during my ski trip. 

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I am also @ 165lb with narrow heel, high arch & medium forefoot and was in the Icon's. Now I'm in the Diablo Race 110. Seems to have a little more room in the toebox & the liners are better. They can be removed at will from the shell. With the Icon's, it was hard to remove them and hard to insert them & the material began to separate when I'd pull the liners out to dry, as it was made of many different materials that were stitched together. You can actually pull on tongue of the Diablo's without it ripping off like I did w/the Icon's. I did love the fit of the Icon's, just not the non-durability of the liners.

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