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Dynastar Contact Cross TI 2010 Review

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Skier background: level 2 CSIA instructor; approx. level 8 skier

Style: Technique

Physical info: 6', 165 lbs, 30 years old

Ski info: Dynastar Contact Cross TI 2010, 104 / 72 / 120, 15M radius, 172 length

Tested on: green, blue and black groomers; off-piste crud; glades

Best attributes: Turning, edge hold

 

I just picked these skis up for a ski coaching certification I'm taking next month. My existing Head Peak 82s simply didn't seem to have the edge hold or innate turning potential. At the recommendation of one of the guys at Comor in Whistler I picked this ski up (half price, as it's the 2010 model). I must say that I couldn't be happier with my choice! 

 

This ski absolutely loves to be tipped and turned on the hardpack and ice. It's super-stable at moderately high speeds, and has solid edge hold. I can confidently ski down the groomers laying these skis over on ice that my Peak 82s would almost certainly wash out on. 

 

Off-piste these skis perform more than adequately. I find myself comfortable making any turn shape off-piste in crud on them. I haven't taken them out on a powder day, but this ski doesn't look like it's built to be a powder machine. In moguls it's not the most forgiving ski, but it's quick edge to edge and doesn't mind being pivoted either, so moguls are certainly manageable and fun on this ski. 

 

Overall, a great groomer ski. I'd give it a 9/10 for groomer performance and 8/10 for off-piste crud performance.

 

EDIT: missed putting in the full model info.

post #2 of 11

Does yours come with fluid binding system? What are the bindings?

 

Have you got the chance to compare them to 4x4?

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I own a 2007 Contact Limited with exactly the same dimension as Cross Ti. Does anyone know what is the difference between the Cross Ti and Limited? I've been thinking about upgrading to either the Cross Ti or 4x4.

post #4 of 11

the contact limited that you have has a layer of metal in it that the contact cross ti does not.  To get metal in a current dynastar carving ski, you need to look at the contact 4 X 4.

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^^^^ I owned the Ltd/11, did not have a layer of metal. Had identical layup to current versions, which is wood sandwich, going to cap at ends, binding plate with Ti in it so that center of ski is stiffened up. One reason why the Ltd/11/Cross are better in bumps than the 4x4, not as planted at speed. 

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The 2010 Cross Ti got great reviews over at the realskiers website.  Sounds like a solid ski.

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Beyond...I've never see a sideview of 4X4. Are you saying that it is 4X4 a full sandwich construction tip to tail while Ltd/11/Corss are only stiffened underfoot? In that case I will stay with Ltd because I would appreciate a bit more flex in tip & tail in bumps. The Ltd is already stiff enough for me.

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Beyond...I've never see a sideview of 4X4. Are you saying that it is 4X4 a full sandwich construction tip to tail while Ltd/11/Corss are only stiffened underfoot? In that case I will stay with Ltd because I would appreciate a bit more flex in tip & tail in bumps. The Ltd is already stiff enough for me.



Sounds like you have the 2007 contact 11.  The Cross Ti has gotten much better reviews.  Quicker, better edge hold and on the realskiers site got a positive mogul rating where the Contact 11 did not.  The 4x4 is a little wider, stiffer, more demanding of good technique, and better off piste and in the crud.  4x4 probably not as good in the moguls based on reviews I have read.  I have not skied either - so take all that with a shaker of salt.  Hope it is helpful

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Does yours come with fluid binding system? What are the bindings?

 

Have you got the chance to compare them to 4x4?


Yes, it came with Fluid bindings. I just tore my MCL in these bindings--so I have to say I don't like them very much. (I've had lots of releases in other bindings. This was the first release I had out of the Fluid bindings.) They bindings feel incredibly stiff even when simply releasing from it. It takes all my weight to release. 

 

So the skis themselves are great; I don't like the bindings. 

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Beyond...I've never see a sideview of 4X4. Are you saying that it is 4X4 a full sandwich construction tip to tail while Ltd/11/Corss are only stiffened underfoot? In that case I will stay with Ltd because I would appreciate a bit more flex in tip & tail in bumps. The Ltd is already stiff enough for me.


The Ltd/Contact had a metal layer associated with the plate, mixed vertical and cap construction. Far as I know, the 4x4 is full sandwich, vertical sideways, metal the whole way. Sidewalls also out of a stiffer material. Can't speak to the Cross, but assume it's the same as the Ltd. since it fills that slot. May be wrong. 

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If I may be so bold as to jump in here, I have done full-day demos/rentals on all three of these skis over the past couple of years, and may be able to add some insight.

 

Contact Cross:  in 2010 there were two versions -- a standard Cross (red topsheet) with no metal; and a Cross Ti with metal (grey topsheet).  Both versions were full sidewall laminate construction.  For 2011 there is only one version, with metal, presumably the same as last year's Cross Ti.  I rented the 2010 Cross Ti in a 178 on a business trip out west last year, and skied it at Lake Louise for a full day, and loved it.  Great ski; very damp and smooth and stable; excellent edge hold on morning refrozen granular; flowed over and through soft afternoon bumps and broken snow with ease (spring conditions).

 

Contact 4x4:  burlier version of the Cross Ti (or is the Cross Ti a lighter version of the 4x4?..whichever came first, I guess); heavier, more stable than the Cross; also full sidewall laminate construction with metal.  I skied it also at Louise the day before I had the Cross Ti, also in a 178.  This ski only came alive at higher speeds.  At slower speed it was just too stiff and heavy and unwieldy for my liking.  I should have taken out a 172, as it is said to be more agile, lighter, more lively.  For my height and skiing style, the Cross Ti in a 178 was a much better choice (my opinion only).

 

Contact Ltd.:  no longer made; Beyond is correct -- partial sidewall underfoot, and cap construction fore-and-aft.  My Mythic Riders and wife's Excl. Legend Powders are made the same way, and it works.  Very torsionally stiff, great edge hold, very smooth, but had a light and lively feel.  I think this ski was made with synthetic core (not wood).  Overall, the ski was great and I really liked it.

 

Hope this helps....and sorry for budding in.....

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