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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

Question to people who ski (or used to) Stockli Stormrider XXL - do you prefer them with bindings on the mark or mounted slightly forward?

I think I remeber somebody suggesting 1cm forward mount.

 

Thank you.

post #2 of 10

I can only guess that the German-Swiss temperment of the ski designer/engineer would not agree that that is an open ended issue. If you were to say that you or anyone here had a better understanding of boot center mark  for that ski than he/she did, I would be ready for some rebuttal, German style. I mounted as commanded by the Stormrider meister chief engineernonono2.gif, (because I wouldn't dare do otherwise)biggrin.gif, and I wouldn't want to be dissed: "just go buy some Volkl, dumkopf" . 

 

post #3 of 10

I've had all of my Stockli skis (Laser SC, SX, Stormrider XL and XXL) either mounted at +1 or with bindings that allow the mounting postion to be adjusted (Vist Speedlock plates); It certainly helps turn initiation and provided you stay centred doesn't hurt soft snow or crud performance.  If in doubt, put a binding on that allows for the mounting position to be changed e.g. Vist Speedlock, Tyrolia Railflex or Marker Griffon.

 

And enjoy them, they are a far better ski than many of Volkl's so called all-mountain one dimentional offerings.

post #4 of 10

I won't rehash all of the binding mount position philosophy stuff here.  I recommend you search the site on BoF (Ball of Foot) mounting position method and options.  Suffice to say that there is an optimum location for your mount and it's not necessarily where the manufacturer has printed a boot midsole mark on the ski. 

 

For my Stocklis I am almost always forward of the mark - usually around 25mm, but it depends on which model.

post #5 of 10

I skied my 170cm XXLs on the factory recommended point and found that they skied very well. Same with my 169cm VXLs.,

post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post

I won't rehash all of the binding mount position philosophy stuff here.  I recommend you search the site on BoF (Ball of Foot) mounting position method and options.  Suffice to say that there is an optimum location for your mount and it's not necessarily where the manufacturer has printed a boot midsole mark on the ski. 

 

For my Stocklis I am almost always forward of the mark - usually around 25mm, but it depends on which model.


you leave me no choice but to write to Hans about your methods.biggrin.gifwink.gif

post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thank You All.

  

I got the skis (with demo bindings).

After skiing them now with different binding positions I think I like 1cm forward best.

It falls exactly between the mark and my BoF on them (2cm forward).

Just for caving on groomers BoF (or even slightly more forward) felt best but I felt like there was not enough ski in junk snow.

post #8 of 10
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Thank You All.

  

I got the skis (with demo bindings).

After skiing them now with different binding positions I think I like 1cm forward best.

It falls exactly between the mark and my BoF on them (2cm forward).

Just for caving on groomers BoF (or even slightly more forward) felt best but I felt like there was not enough ski in junk snow.


Your observations sound like they're right on the money.  Glad you had the opportunity with those bindings to get yourself dialed-in on the skis.  Congrats on your purchase - I love the XXL and it's still on my buy list (if I can ever find a good deal on them).

post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 

End of summer is approaching - time to talk about skiing again J

I thought I ask your opinion again:

I like my Stockli XXL 170cm a lot - so much that I decided to get them in bigger size and bought new XXL 178cm (summer half price sale) – I hope it will not be too much ski for me (180 Explosives was while 173 Explosives were so easy to ski).

Now I have the same dilemma I had with shorter length – will 1cm forward feel the best?

Installing demo bindings (or even railflex) would take care of it but I would like to put regular bindings on them (hoping to get Rossi FKS).

What do you think?

Maybe I should put some plate on them and mount bindings on the plate but it will put me to high on the ski and I will lose that short foot print FKS are famous for.

post #10 of 10

skimrg - you should be able to "translate" your position on the shorter version to the longer version. Just find the adjustment you have on the shorter ski (marked mount point versus your mount point) and then add the additional amount based on the percentage length increase of the longer ski.  Hope that makes sense to you.  (remember never to actually do math in public wink.gif).

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