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Edging Question

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I would consider myself an intermediate skier.  I have noticed I have a tendency not to use one of my edges while turning.  For example if I am making a right turn, I am not putting enough weight on my right leg (outside edge) and if I am making a left turn I am not putting enough weight on my left leg (outside edge).  I am looking for some tips or suggestions that might help me with the weight transfer.  I guess I am skidding my turns.

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River Hill, the outside edge we refer to as the Little Toe Edege of the ski, LTE. Anyway, why do you feel you are not putting enough weight on the inside ski LTE?

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Thread Starter 

I am guessing not enough weight transfer or maybe lack of confidence.

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Ever tried skiing on one ski? Can help build up confidence on using the LTE, well because you have to.

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RiverHill - my hunch is that you are in a fearly wide stance. You should try to close your stance a bit, bring your hips into the turn and try to balance over your outside ski by leaning outwards with your upper body while you tip the inside ski onto its LTE. A wide stance is counterproductive when it comes to functional two footed skiing. Try to use both feet in unison. Together. Like it was one.

post #6 of 12

River Hill


Without seeing you ski it is very difficult to diagnose what is going on.  There are many things that contribute to this.  You may be allowing your inside ski to move too far forward.  When this happens you can't edge it properly.


I'm going to fish with you a bit, seeing I can't see how you ski.


Question; can you feel the front of your shins touching your boots firmly during a turn?  (This includes both the outside and inside leg.)  If not, then try drawing both your feet back as you ski.  This will help you maintain good shin-boot contact.  It will help you drive your skis instead of having your skis take you for a ride.

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Hi River Hill--

As others have noted, it's impossible to give you much help without knowing more about you--preferably with some video, or at least a still photo or two. But I can tell you this: in most turns, you will, and should, find more pressure on your outside ski, with sometimes very little or even none at all on the inside ski. What you have described is not necessarily a problem. Has someone told you otherwise? Has anyone suggested that you should try to keep the pressure even on both skis, or something similar? It's not uncommon advice, but in most skiing situations and conditions, it is bad advice (although not necessarily a bad thing to practice now and then, to make you a more versatile, more skilled skier).

The same forces act on you as a skier as in a car when you go around a curve--you will feel pulled out toward your outside ski or wheels. It is not something you need to "do," but it is something you should generally allow to happen. It takes considerable work to move your body even further inside the turn to keep your balance on both skis, and there is rarely any reason to do it. Indeed, biomechanically, you are better designed to balance on the outside leg of the turn, and when you do allow your balance to shift to the outside ski, the inside ski remains as a "backup," ready to take the weight and keep you from falling if the outside ski loses its grip or sinks into soft snow, or any other reason.

So it's at least possible that you do not have a problem with this at all. If you have not been giving yourself permission for the inside ski to become "light," I encourage you to do so henceforth, and reap the benefits!

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and fantastic skiing to all!

Best regards,
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Originally Posted by River Hill View Post

I am guessing not enough weight transfer or maybe lack of confidence.

it sounds as if you have your balance transfer backwards.


as Bob says we should let the outside skis carry most of our balance and weight.


So right turn means your balance on your left, left turn balance on your right ski. Inside edges of each ski off course.


I would argue outside skis balance is the 3rd biggest overall component of our overall skiing after having  fore and aft balance dialed, and making sure we are turning our legs and not our bodies. I would also argue that if your fore and aft balance is dialed and your turning your feet it would be difficult to not be balance on the outside ski.

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Do you have your terminology switched?  The weight transfer should be from the old outside ski to the new outside ski as the first part of your next turn.  You want to move your body forward and out over the new outside ski as the first part of the turn.


Try these drills--Traverse across the hill with your weight on the ball of the downhill foot and the tail of the uphill ski tapping on the snow.  Raise the tail an inch or two, just the tail, and tap it on the snow as you travel across the hill.  Next, just before you turn, switch your weight to the uphill ski, tap the tail of the downhill ski, and tap that tail through the turn and across the hill.  Just before you next turn, switch your weight to the current uphill ski, tap the other tail, then turn, etc., etc.  When this gets boring, stop tapping and lift the tail of the ski off the snow only an inch or two, let the shovel slide on the snow.  Just before the turn switch feet so you're lifting the downhill ski, turn, and keep the new inside ski tail lifted until you need to prepare for the next turn.  If you want to improve, you'll do these drills step by step, and a hundred or so of each before you advance to the next one (really).  Your stance width should have your feet just under the balls of your femur joints with your legs parallel.  If you have a wide stance, you're hurting your skiing.  Even weight on both feet is important in deep snow, and weight mainly on the outside ski is superior if you're skiing on a base.


Skidding is OK if your weight is forward and the broad tip of your outside ski is pulling you around making round turns.  Skidding by pushing your heels out and making Z-shaped turns is not OK.  If you really want smooth turns, lift the arch of your newly lightened new-inside ski as you turn--tilt the big toe of that foot up off the snow.  Try it--you'll like it.

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River Hill--

I hate to remind you of this, but please question and challenge all information you get, especially from people you do not know, and even more especially from "instructors" over the Internet. As you've perhaps already discovered (as I suggested in my previous post), not all information is "correct." But all things can be "good" if you try them as an experiment and remember that the ultimate judge of whether they work for you and whether they are right for you must be...you!

There is information that has been posted already in this thread--and there will surely be more--that may be dead wrong, or that is at least likely to be misconstrued or misapplied, and that may well lead you astray.

But don't believe anything I tell you!


Best regards,
post #11 of 12

 Slight amendment:  Don't believe anything anyone tells you until you have a chance to verify it for yourself.


My question is not where your weight is, but whether you are using BOTH corresponding edges.

post #12 of 12

River Hill,


Boiling down all you've heard here the best idea is to find a good ski area and a great instructor.  Go out with the instructor and let him/her look at you and work with you.  What you think is a problem might not be one at all.  It will be good money spent and help you become the skier you want to be.

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