Originally Posted by ecimmortal
Originally Posted by davluri
some posters here have a social political bias toward small boutique ski manufacturers.
this has nothing to do with what you are looking for in a ski. especially if this is your first powder ski for a quiver idea.
It never ceases to amaze me how a small boutique cabinet maker goes out of his way to shit on small boutique ski makers. Especially when you are completely ignorant of what those companies offer in their lineup.
Hmmm. I reread davluri's comment three times. Do not see that he's shitting on anyone, and not clear if he's ignorant (we don't know what he's skied, he seems to have tried Praxis and others). I think what he's saying is that some posters (here and certainly at TGR) have a personal bias toward indies. Which is true on its face, regardless of whether the preference stems from "made-in-America," or "support the little guy startup who cares over the corporate AH Salomons of the the world," or wanting handmade stuff, or just liking the design novelty, or the topsheet graphics. Then he goes on to say that such a bias/preference should have nothing to do with picking a ski. Also true on its face, unless you subscribe to the same preferences. Assume the OP does not. (I actually do, slightly, in that I'll try to include indies in my list, and give them my hardest look.)
Finally, in the next post, I think his most "inflamatory" claim is that indie skis generally do not have as high a QC. That also true on its face; various reps for PM and DPS, for instance, over at TGR have shrugged off the cosmetics issues. Everyone and his/her brother knows that the topsheets will chip and cut worse than majors' topsheets - Splat has flat out said that his topsheets may or may not have small chips from hand beveling depending on when the blade was changed - and that the general integrity of the build, such as the laminates staying where they should, has more variability. Thus the prevalence of advice from reps and makers to haul out the epoxy. And no indie skis I've purchased have had flat bases or true edges from the factory. Some do OK because they have good shops, like Starthaus, to finish their skis for them. This doesn't set them apart from Head, for instance, but it means that they require at least as much care and attention after purchase.
So if you buy indie skis assuming they'll be as perfect out of the box as say an Elan, Blizzard, or Kastle, or look as good after a season, you're probably gonna be unhappy if you hit the wrong side of the curve for QC. But IME, that's not why we buy indie skis (and I have happily owned several.)
Didn't realize you made furniture, davluri. Cool. PM me if you have an online site.