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twin tips for beginners?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

I'm about to get some equipments for me, my wife and my son (5 yrs old). I've skied and snowboarded before, but my wife and my son are complete beginners. For my son, I'm probably going to do a seasonal rental from my local ski shop. For me and my wife, we're probably going to invest in a good pair of boots and maybe also buy a set of skis for each of us.


I'm an avg skier, never been on powder, all groomed surface. We plan on skiing mostly on the East Coast (NY, MA, NH, VT). All my skiiing have been on rental skis, but for about 3 years I skied on a pair of those short skis and I really like them because they were so easy to maneuver. For this reason, I'm thinking of getting twin tips for me and my wife. We will be skiing with our son so we will be going slow and easy. I will most likely venture to the intermediate slopes on my own while my wife and my son hang out on the bunny slopes. And eventually they will join me as they improve.


Now, I haven't been on the slopes for quite a while now but my impression is that twin tips are mostly for the younger kids on pipes and rails and what not... or am I wrong? I have no intention of venturing into the pipes, well maybe once in a while, but mostly we will be skiing family style, if that makes any sense. Would we look like "posers" on twin tips if we're just getting them based on my previous experience on the short skis being easy to ski on? Based on what I described, do twin tips make sense for me and my wife?


Thanks in advance for your advice.

post #2 of 12

Welcome back to skiing.  I highly recommend that you and your wife go to a boot fitter and get properly fitting boots before you buy any other equipment.  Rent skis for a while to see what you like.  Most places that offer season rentals will let you swap skis so you can try different ones.  As for twin tips being for younger skiers, I'm 66 and ski on Icelantic Shamans.  I had a lady show up for a lesson last week with a brand new pair of Rossi S86w boards and she was least 60 if not older.  There we were, two old fogies skiing in the bumps on our twin tips.  So, twin tips are not just for kids,  But, I would still recommend renting for a while, demo some twin tips after you have some more experience.

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thank you for the perspective. We do plan on getting the boots from a ski shop. Regarding the skis, I was thinking, for the price of a seasonal rental, wouldn't we be able to buy a used pair? If we just went with something like an all mountain twin tips measured to our height, doesn't that sort of fit all around general purpose skiing for the type of skiing I described above?

post #4 of 12

I would not go with twin tips for a beginner.  Makes it easier to slide backwards, thus harder to control yourself.  Not an issuue at all when skiing but makes it harder when stopped.  Are you planning on learning to ski backwards as a beginner?  So why twins?

post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 

I'm a decent skier. I can't do jumps and all that hotdog stuff, but I can go down a hill and not look bad doing it. And I can go switch if I wanted to. I also used to snow board and I'm also quite good on hockey skates if that is any indication. As for my wife, she is a complete beginner.

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Originally Posted by DoolinDalton View Post

 We do plan on getting the boots from a ski shop.

Just because you get the boots at a ski shop doesn't mean they will fit properly.  A boot has to be shell fit:  pull the liner out, put your foot in the shell with your toes touching the front.  Any shop that does not do this doesn't know what they are doing and you will get a boot that is at least one if not two sizes too big.  And you would be surprised by how many ski shops don't do it right.  Go to the "Ask the Boot Guys" forum and read the wikis about boot fitting and the listing of where boot fitters are located. 

Edited by mtcyclist - 12/22/10 at 12:13pm
post #7 of 12

^^^^ What he says about buyer beware; not all ski shops are equal. Suggest a search for good fitters in your area, if nothing, check with the boot forum here. 


As far as twins, don't think it's a great idea for your wife and son. One more motion parameter for a newbie to have to deal with, and vaguer feel from the rear of the ski at the end of the turn. That clear conclusion is important for figuring out how to pressure your edges, release the turn. If you see a beginner skiing switch, it's by accident. Buy clean used directional gear in the 70-78 mm waist range for wife, mouth to nose tip length, typical kids' skis (go for length match to chin/mouth) for son. (Incidentally, kids' skis have a decently flipped tail anyway.) Once they've figured out how to do french fries and carve a bit, then if you think true twins are better, go for it.


As far as yourself, twins makes sense if you plan to ski bumps, park, trees, soft snow, do swtich, significantly more than you plan to carve groomers. Although in that case you might benefit from one of the new midfats with mild rocker. Part of the equation is where you ski. If it's icy a lot, then twins make less sense unless you're a park rat. If it's soft a lot, then twins make more sense. 

post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the advice. All things considered, I think it would be best to just rent for now and slowly pick up the equipment as I find the opportunity. We're going to Jiminy Peak next week which is what spurred this conversation. After doing some research, I located a shop that seems to have good reputation up there (called Ski Fanatics, if anyone here is familiar). I plan on stopping by on the way up and rent the necessary equipment.

post #9 of 12

One more problem beginners sometimes have with twins is it is a bit more trick to walk around, fishbone up a hill, etc because you have to step a bit higher to clear the rise of the tail of the other ski on some maneuvers.  Clipping the top of the left /right ski tail with the bottom of the right/left ski tail can cause a total noob to fall flat on their face.  But after their first day or two that shouldn't be a problem.

post #10 of 12

check to see which resort is having demo days where you can try different skis for free.

post #11 of 12
Originally Posted by DoolinDalton View Post

 I located a shop that seems to have good reputation up there (called Ski Fanatics, if anyone here is familiar). I plan on stopping by on the way up and rent the necessary equipment.

It's a small chain. I've had very good outcomes with the one in central NH near Waterville Valley; they handle a lot of youth/beer racing. YMMV. 

post #12 of 12

Rent and test demos, if you are not diving into powder and not looking to explore some trees and off the trail terrain, you probobly don't need twin tips. However, for the future consider rockered or semi-rockered skis, those are new generation of skis that make is easy to ski various conditions. I have been skiing regular standard chamber skis ( non rockered and no twin teap), this year I am skiing Volkl Gotama (semi rocker, no camber) and I like them way better then my old skis, but under certain hard pack / icy conditions I have to work very hard and keep them on the edge, while my buddy on regular skis tells me that I need to speed it up.

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