I had two backseat bandits in my 2h beginner lesson today who I just could not cure. On flats, they could assume a reasonably athletic stance. And they could get into position on the bunny hill in an athletic stance. but as soon as they allowed themselves to move, they went into the backseat and their tips would often cross as the skis ran away on them.
I was actually really concerned--the one guy had two backwards falls from being so far back, and that really worries me. Basically I never want to see this in a lesson ever again.
I went through my whole list with him to get him forward:
do a superman with the arms; he simply would stick his arms forward and lean back.
do a "pelvic thrust"; he bent somewhat backwards above the hips.
Bring your shoulders over the toes; this made no difference.
Feel the weight over the balls of your feet; nothing.
Yet on a flat his stance was athletic. I could have him bring his shoulders forward, flex in the ankles/knees/hip... sigh. He also consistently looked out the hill, not down at his skis. And on flats he could slide on one ski, do the box-turn drill on one ski, rotate the femur in the hip socket...
Short of physically putting him in a vice I didn't know what to do. I was out of options. My supervisor says that you regularly see a possibly major split in your group within an hour or two... which made the experience a bit less upsetting for me... but I'd still like to find some way to fix this guy's issues. Though I sound upset right now, I tried to celebrate every victory for him (like his ability to do a gliding wedge to braking wedge on total flats and near-flats).
All I can possibly come up with, in hindsight, was checking his boots... ... ... maybe if your foot's sliding around you're going to recoil in fear?
(My other backseat bandit was afflicted with some other challenges: she couldn't maintain any tension in her skis while moving, had a fairly hard time balancing over one ski just standing still, she couldn't really turn her femur in her hip socket and didn't get the concept of flattening a ski or putting it on edge--even while I was tipping them for her. She actually seemed to have minimal to no interest in being on the hill. :( I think she might have benefited from more fundamentals practice for longer. In short, that one's a different post--I'm actually trying to figure out what I could have done for the guy above.)
Any thoughts for backseat bandit #1? The moment's gone, but I'm sure I'll see more of these in the future!
(My other 3 participants did amazingly well.)