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Briko-Maplus Race Base Medium fan club

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Certainly intriguing the number of people who are fans of the RB medium wax as a good, durable general purpose wax. My issue is that the conditions where I ski are much warmer than the continental US conditions. The snow in NZ is very coastal, in the middle of winter it never gets below -7c (20F) and the snow usually falls wet and heavy. The biggest challenge for gliding are the spring days when the snowpack is saturated with water and surface tension sticks you to the snow (even with a coase structure).

I have tended to go for Toko and Swix low fluoro waxes in the past for their water repellancy and they tend to work well for a day at most, but durability seems to be their achilles heel so I am interested in a consistent glide for a couple of days. I am happy to have a system of two or three waxes to use at different ends of the ski season but I don't want to get too complicated.

Most of the base prep waxes seem to be a blend of soft and hard waxes for absorption and durability, is the Maplus / Briko RB composition similar to these? It does seem odd that they cost twice as much as any other non-fluoro wax?

Is the RB medium so versatile it works in slushy spring conditions too? How does the RB soft perform in spring conditions and versatility compared to the RB medium?  

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IME and opinion, no matter which wax or how hydrophobic it is in wetter conditions, a more aggressive base structure is critical for obtaining your best glide. The suction created by the presence of water needs to be minimized, coupled with a decent wax.


As mentioned multiple times the RB Medium is more durable and typically you need to wax less and use much less material than other softer and low cost 'universals'. It is not targeted by the manufacturer at the rec, universal, 'I want it brainless' and 'cheap wax' crowd, but the performance and racer crowd. There is plenty of money selling higher volume of cheap wax for the typical rec skier. There are probably several other high grade waxes that could also be characterized as 'durable universals'.


Adding a medium to warm temp wax with some LF, coupled with an aggressive structure, works well for me as an overlay over the RB Medium. See this Tuning Tip post on spring corn harvesting and typical durability issues. You can always reapply a faster, warmer wax via rub on or spray if it wears off, but over a durable base protecting wax that also runs OK in warmer snows is better, IMO. Erring towards a colder wax in variable conditions will typically run better overall than a warmer wax in colder or new snows.


Experimenting in your area over time will be your best answer to find what suits you best. There are too many variables that one wax will always be the best option. The question gets down to acceptable trade offs and how much do you want to micro-manage tweaking wax temps and time you have.


Find something or somethings that fits you and your lifestyle, not the other way around. I'm into efficiency. Getting out the door to get on skis quicker, easier and more often due to use of higher grade supplies, tools and techniques has value to me....especially with my kid. Time to get stuff done so I can get out the door for some more freshies.....

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If you DO get Briko/Maplus Race Base Medium or any wax of comparable durability (read: "cold" or "hard" wax ), one trick you can try for spring conditions is to combine it with Zardoz Notwax in something that used to be called the Felix process.

There is a description here:


This works very, very well for changeable conditions, especially if the snow is far better (read: colder) higher up the mountain.

It does _not_ work very well with skin glue (read: you'd bettter have a rat-tail or something else to tension the skin).

EDIT: One thing I didn't see on Alpinord's site is that more wax cycles = more wax durability.
IOW, several wax/scrape/brush cycles with any wax will be more durable than 1 wax/scrape/brush cycle.
This does _not_ mean you need to actually use more wax. (IMO most people use too much wax during their 1 WSB cycle).
Edited by comprex - 12/22/10 at 11:53am
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