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In January I'm planning on getting some new ski boots to replace my Head S8s. The liners have packed out somewhat, but I've come to realise that overall they're too roomy for me anyway. When I do a shell fit, there looks to be about 3/4" of space (I haven't got a correct size dowel to hand to make sure, but I improvised), so they're a little more of a 'comfort fit' than I would ideally like. More importantly, though, they have a 100mm last (or, more accurately, a 103mm last reduced to 100mm) with an internal frame - and I have quite a narrow foot, meaning that to get control I need to crank down the buckles a lot, and I get bad foot cramps in the first runs of the morning probably as a result of this. So, I'm going to bite the bullet and get some new boots in a slightly smaller size, with a narrower last.

 

BUT...I'm actually getting 3 days of skiing in between Xmas and New Year, and I don't have time to get boots sorted before then. So, I'm looking for ways of taking up some of the volume in my existing boots (which I otherwise like) to kludge me through that short break. I've already added a shim beneath the footbed; a DIY equivalent of the Eliminator tongue shim using neoprene and contact adhesive; and a little shim using the wonder combination of neoprene and duct tape in the achilles tendon area (outside of my liner) to hold my heel in place a bit better. These have all benefited, but I still have the unwanted space around my midfoot/forefoot.

 

Now, I was thinking that as there is a removable internal frame which takes the last width down from 103mm down to 100mm, maybe I could beef it up a bit and lose another 3-4mm, taking me down to a much more svelte 96-97mm? I'm thinking of a few layers of a PVC tape on all the surfaces. But I probably need to lose some volume in the heel area as well. Should I add something on the liner, or inside the shell? And is what I am trying to do feasible at all? Or am I mad? Any thoughts on the subject are welcome.

post #2 of 6

You can buy 8.5 x 11 sheets of craft foam in the craft dept of any store such as Walmart.  They run under $1 per sheet.  Cut the foam to shape,  then duct tape to the outside of your liner.  I've done this for many years,  and it works quite well.  I generally cover the sides of the ankle area (with a cutout for the ankle bone,  all along the sides (but not behind) the heel,  and along the sides of the foot just past the widest part.  I like to leave room in the toebox and on top of my foot.  You may have different needs,  but with a little thought,  you should be able to figure it out.  Buy extra sheets so you can experiment if necessary.  I have 2-3 layers on each side of my liner in spots.  Makes a huge difference.

 

AM.

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Sounds a good tip, thanks. I actually think I have some of this foam somewhere, I'll give it a go. Does this stuff not compress down, though?

post #4 of 6

sounds like you are fixing a broken leg with band-iads here....  Ya,  your boots are too big in both width and length.

 

maybe just rent boots that are a bit smaller for the 3 days?  odds are it will be better then a big shell, with LOTS of padding added.

 

if you do want to keep going with this DIY project:
 

wear a few thicker socks, and add a big sock around the liner.   add a shim below the footbed.  move all the buckles in to a smaller setting.  Do the power strap up around the liner only....

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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post

sounds like you are fixing a broken leg with band-iads here....  Ya,  your boots are too big in both width and length.

 

maybe just rent boots that are a bit smaller for the 3 days?  odds are it will be better then a big shell, with LOTS of padding added.

 

if you do want to keep going with this DIY project:
 

wear a few thicker socks, and add a big sock around the liner.   add a shim below the footbed.  move all the buckles in to a smaller setting.  Do the power strap up around the liner only....


Yes, I know the boots are a little too big for me. I must say I hadn't even considered the option of renting boots. My experience of rental boots is that they are generally higher volume ones for a comfort fit, on the basis that more experienced skiers will usually have their own - but maybe some lower volume ones are available? I would have thought, though, that what I need is to drop a size in boots and then have a little boot work done to make the things wearable, which is obviously not compatible with renting.

 

As regards the other suggestions...One of the main things I'm trying to achieve is avoiding the foot cramps in the first few runs of the morning (it eases off by mid-morning). I have to ski with the buckles on loose settings to begin with to avoid this, but obviously this compromises my control. Would wearing thicker socks maybe allow me to avoid the cramping problems (albeit with some slight loss of control)? Intrigued by your idea of a big sock around the liner - it would have to be a seriously big sock, but I'll see if I can find some. I've already added a reasonably thick shim beneath the footbed. The buckles are not at their max settings, and I do already use the power strap technique (with a Booster Strap).

post #6 of 6

just a matter of trying things out.  They might work, might not.  The correct solution is get boots that fit  (but you know this)

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