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What kind of tune to achieve variable turn shape on a longer radius ski?

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I'm still skiing on my older Dynastar Legend 8K @178 and intend to get at least one more season out of it. I found that the factory tune allowed for a nice variability of turn shape even with a natural radius of 20. However, after a full grid and tune I found that I had to do some significant detuning to get back to that kind of versatility. Initially the problem was edges catching at the tip which I fixed with some detuning.

 

However, the persistent issue was that on steep,skied off/ hardpack where I was looking to slow down a bit I had trouble getting the ski into a tighter turn by allowing the tails to slide out before engaging back into a full carve. On softer snow this obviously was not an issue.

 

Maybe it's just my technique and having been used to duller edges, but I'm pretty sure that a tune more suited to my style would help.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

post #2 of 8

I have those skis and length with a smooth, sharp 1:2 tip to tail. Yesterday on packed powder and manmade, etc while trying to get my 'sea legs' back, I was noticing that on steeper stuff I tended to over angulate and get forward a skootch. By making sure my foot had equal contact and maybe a tad more on the tails, along with a more upright stands.....and less forcing, the 'carving' was highly variable and controllable. On flatter terrain, I felt like I was on rails, but as the grade increases on slicker surfaces, I get more skidding and still haven't found that I love their carving ability in all cases and would prefer something else. I intend to spend some more time experimenting some more to see if I can, but primarily like the ski for it's versatility in variable terrain and conditions, including bumps, trees and off piste in less dense snows.

 

I experimented w/ a ,5/3 for a while and like the grippier more responsiveness on harder snows. The 1:2 is easier for me to feather, however.

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Thanks for the response.

 

I guess it's not just me. What you describe is probably what I'm doing. Over angulation is a natural bad habit of mine as things get steeper. I suppose the dullness of the factory tune let me get away with that a bit more. Let me know if you find any tuning adjustments that work particularly well for you. Still, I think that I may have to keep the tails detuned a bit for now.

 

I also really like the ski for its versatility, but the relatively traditional sidecut does make it a bit less lively as a carver in some conditions.

 

 

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I also really like the ski for its versatility, but the relatively traditional sidecut does make it a bit less lively as a carver in some conditions.

 

 


I understand the words, but I really don't understand the sentence? confused.gif:
post #5 of 8
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Alpinord commented that he did not like the carving in all circumstances. I was trying to convey that I noticed this as well, and I believed it was due to the ski having less sidecut compared to other skis in its class. In fact, in the last generation of the 8K they widened the tip a bit.

 

Sorry if I didn't express myself clearly.

post #6 of 8
Ah. You mean it's slower to engage than some others. Right. These days "traditional" sidecut is a bit unclear, since it can so easily mean "not one of the funshapes".

Have you played around with using your core to control the very top of the turn? You can do some really fun stuff on the older 8Ks with this.
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Agreed: I'll take this as tacit permission to punch out and experiment to verify your statements......and maybe report back any findings. wink.gif
 

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AAh. You mean it's slower to engage than some others. Right. These days "traditional" sidecut is a bit unclear, since it can so easily mean "not one of the funshapes". Have you played around with using your core to control the very top of the turn? You can do some really fun stuff on the older 8Ks with this.
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Have you played around with using your core to control the very top of the turn? You can do some really fun stuff on the older 8Ks with this.


 

Probably not; can you explain what you mean?

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