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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

Hi guys. My name is Lorand. I live in Romania. Great country, great mountains, shitty skiing.

Ski selection in shops is modest, can't demo skis and the prices are way to big online.I read hundreds of 

topics regarding what skis I need .

I am 5' 11weight 185, ski about 50 + days a year, med - advanced skier. I am looking for a versatile, fast everyday ski 50 piste \ 50

off ( trees mostly , backcountry, no park ) IT MUST HANDLE POWDER WELL. I am looking at 90-100mm. So my three choises are :

K2 Kung Fujas     -179

Salomon Shogun  -182

Fischer Watea 98 -176

Very hard choise considering... ( can't demo any  )

A solid, tough ski that works in poor snow conditions well would be nice.

What about mounting a Marker Baron binding for small touring sessions? Is the Baron a weak binding?

Thats it.

How do i decide? Price is about the same. Help me out guys! thx! cool.gif

post #2 of 12

Shogun and Kung Fujas have a bit of tip rocker so they will ski well in powder. Both have been reviewed well, heard a lot of good stuff about the Shogun. I would go with one of those and not the Fischer.

 

Baron is ok for your weight if you aren't doing big jumps/cliffs on it, otherwise I'd go for the Duke if you want to be able to tour on them.

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

So i think i am to buy the shogun with the sth14 binding. i can't decide about the size thou. 173 or 182. has anyone skied the shogun? can the 182 handle quick turns.. is it playful enough to take to the woods? Am I loosing to much speed with the shorter ones? friends said i should go with the bigger size due to the rocker. Heeeeelp! 

post #4 of 12

At your weight, I think the 182 Shogun would be the better choice.  The rocker/rise makes it ski relatively short for its length.  It sounds like you're a pretty strong skier - if that's the case you won't have any problems with the 182.  I weigh about ten pounds more than you.  I demoed the Shogun in the 191 last year and liked it a great deal.

 

Welcome to Epic, by the way.  I almost added your country to a trip we made to Czech Republic this past fall.  The research I did about going to Romania left me with the impression that it's a beautiful country that's a lot less touristy than other places.  We're definitely going there in the next few years.

 

Have fun on those skis.

post #5 of 12

I'd suggest the Salomon as well. Liked it when I tried it out.

 

Just for your info, the Salomon line is made in Altenmarkt Austria by its sister company. K2 is only an American company with all production off shore in China.

post #6 of 12

skied the Shogun. Liked it a lot. lively and strong. can't feel the slight tip rocker on groomers, just feels normal. I skied it very short for a test and found it held up in every category (in case you like a short ski, this one works, don't agree it skis short due to the tip rocker). K2 is not in this class, and the Fisher I am not familiar with, but it is no where near as popular where I ski, like one hundredth as popular. 

post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thx 4 the quick info and the warm welcome guys. I was leaning towards the shogun for quite a while. But I cant test them and its a pain in the ass. Also its my first powder ski and its hard to decide by reading reviews. I will go with the 182 and Sth 14 Binding. Now i'm facing a new dilema.

My current boot sole lenght is 340mm on my old Nordica boots.

The STH 14 can be adjusted 19mm or 2,5 us bootsizes.

My US shoe size is 10. Tried out some Salomon Quest 12 in Austria last week in size 27,5 and 28 . Could not decide.

BTW the salomon boot size: BSL: 315mm [27.0/27.5] and BSL: 326mm [28.0/28.5].

From 340mm to 315mm... to much adjustment for this binding. I was thinking to mount the binding to 340mm so that the adjustment could only go down.( make snaller ) From 340mm to 321mm. In this range maybe i find something that fitts. 

Does that make any sense?  Did anyone understand what i am trying to explain? It should be possible right?

Or buy them unmounted and w8 until i buy new boots? Its weird to buy boots online....

 

P.S. Bob, Romania is a great country with great mountains. You should come visit. Ski infrastructure sucks. Tourism is growing. With the right person to show you around u should have a great time. ( i'm a guide ;) hehe )

post #8 of 12

Definitely get the 182cm. You could probably handle the 191, but the 182 will be faster in the trees.

 

Wow, 340mm, that is huge especially for a US10 size foot.

 

The 20mm adjustment is total, so if you want to move back 20mm you have to make sure the bindings are mounted completely forward. I would advise getting new boots first, there is no way a US10 foot should be in a 340mm which is around a 29.0 shell usually. You should be in a 27 or 27.5 most likely.

post #9 of 12

you could mount to a mean BSL for your boot size, making sure you know where the boot center line will fall. do not mount to old boots if you are considering changing boots soon, and if your boots hav e a long BSL for the size.

post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 

I talked to the guy in Germany who is sending the package. I told him about my old boots 340mm and he mounted the binding for 326mm ( thats 28 size for salomon - size i think i need ) however due to the adjustment the old 340mm boots fit as well. He also said that he didnt do the safety settings. Whatever that means. Hope I will find a new right sized boot to fit into the binding.

I will try to find a shop to try on some boots. Then i will ordem them online.

 

P.S. Betaracer: More than 70% of Salomon boot production is made in Romania. Thats what the papers wrote. They also make Skis. And they are more way more expensive to buy here then in Germany. Thats ****** up. 

post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by peterlorand View Post

I talked to the guy in Germany who is sending the package. I told him about my old boots 340mm and he mounted the binding for 326mm ( thats 28 size for salomon - size i think i need ) however due to the adjustment the old 340mm boots fit as well. He also said that he didnt do the safety settings. Whatever that means. Hope I will find a new right sized boot to fit into the binding.

I will try to find a shop to try on some boots. Then i will ordem them online.

 

P.S. Betaracer: More than 70% of Salomon boot production is made in Romania. Thats what the papers wrote. They also make Skis. And they are more way more expensive to buy here then in Germany. Thats ****** up. 

 

Who did you use in Germany? SportConrad? They don't adjust the realease (DIN) settings - they leave that up to you. The skis will have an incomprehensible sticker on them telling you this when they arrive.

 

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I've used SportConrad once - excellent service and excellent prices. I've also read loads of reviews from satisifed customers, including a few warranty issues where SportConrad have been nothing but helpful in getting things sorted out.
 

post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 

Gerlspeck . Google it. Lowest price I found. 

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