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No, you can not.

post #122 of 126

Man, what a long and ridiculous thread this has become!

 

There is expert and there is virtuoso.  (and too many hairs are being split thinner and thinner as you guys argue your points)

 

Yo-Yo Ma is not an expert cellist he is a virtuoso.

 

Bode Miller and Jean Claude Killy are not expert skiers they are virtuosos.

 

Eric Clapton is an incredibly talented rock and blues guitarist.  He ain't great at classical finger style guitar.   Segovia, I 'm guessing, ain't great at electric rock and blues guitar.  Yet it can be argued that both are expert, even virtuoso guitarists.

 

I have been skiing for longer than I care to admit.  My boots are probably as old as "Old Boot's"  When I walk into a ski shop and they ask me what kind of skier I am I say, "I'm a good skier".

 

When I first moved to shaped skis I took a private lesson from a level III instructor in order to learn how to get the most out of the new technology.  He gave me some tips that helped and also said, "You are a very good skier." Last season, I took a trees clinic at Jay Peak  because I was alone and wanted to hit the woods on a powder day.  The instructor asked me if I wanted instruction or just to ski.  I said by all means, instruct me.  All he told me in 3 hours was that I was a really good skier.  So there you have it from an instructor...it is official - I am not an expert.  I am a good skier.

 

I never believe anyone who claims to be an expert skier.  Were I a ski shop employee I would, as an earlier poster suggested, sell them the most expensive super expert skis on the rack, along with some special, expert boots and bindings they will need to get the most out of those skis.  And don't forget the matching outfit so they will look more expertish.

 

If someone claims to be a good skier, I figure they are an expert because they know enough to know that there is always more to learn.  They also know that those two words together, "expert skier" are a lightning rod for ridiculous, mind numbing, hair splitting debates on epicski.com.

post #123 of 126

I like how on the other thread about expert heli-skiing, the general concensus is it doesn't matter how good the OP is at skiing at her local hill, because she lacks the experience in powder and off-piste skiing, so she cannot be expert.

 

Yet in this thread, the argument is if you're good enough on old equipment, you don't need experience in new equipment to be an expert cause you'll figure it out quickly.

 

Crank...you're absolutely right that a real expert will never call themselves an expert.

I've found that the closer you come to being expert, the further you realize you are from being expert. It's a line that keeps moving further and further away from your own frame of reference, yet a line that stays still and can be crossed from another person's frame of reference.

 

I think we can develop the special theory of expert skiing relativity?  Einstein's got nothing on us!  biggrin.gif

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Haha! Rollerblading!



I know, right?

 

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post #125 of 126

Ghost wrote:  "Perhaps my definition of an expert skier is higher than yours.  An expert skier is someone who is a good enough skier that he can adapt to a new pair of skis..."

 

No, an expert skier is one who is recongnized by the others in his sub-discipline (GS racing, downhil racing, moguls, slope style, pipe) as being at the elite level.  That is my definition.  I have never met an expert, under that definition, who does not know a LOT about his or her craft.  Usually they love the physiology of their part of their sport, the training science, and without question the gear.  The 19 year old kid with Hellbents who can land switch coming off of 40 footers in fresh powder or the guy who is ripping up the national downhill circuit - doesn't matter.  They know all there is to know, or want to.

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I have never met an expert, under that definition, who does not know a LOT about his or her craft.  Usually they love the physiology of their part of their sport, the training science, and without question the gear.


 

Hang around here long enough and you meet the only true expert skier, Bob Peters!

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