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Does your age = DIN chart age?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 

Since the DIN charts for bindings drop one level on age 50, do you still say you are 49 regardless of your age?  I have been 49  for several years now and have typically skied the DIN chart settings for a Type III and >50 years old.  Even on skis used in our club races.  Is this common?

 

I'm in decent shape from biking and other activities. I have no ACL in one knee (don't know when it happened, but just found out last ski season) and I have had only one broken bone in my life, a Jones fracture of the foot.  So I think my bones are sturdy enough.  Is it OK to follow the charts without the age adjustment?

post #2 of 23

I don't know about being OK or not, but I pre release way too much at the setting the shop puts on my bindings, so I work it up by half settings until they don't any more.  I've broken my leg skiing and I don't want to do that again, so I'm pretty conservative, but the official setting for me is just way too loose to be safe.  I'm 57.

post #3 of 23

I believe they subtract one number from your DIN setting for being over 50 years old. I have the same problem as you.  Just because I hit 50 does not mean I do not still ski hard and weigh the same, so if I lower my DIN settings I keep blowing out of my bindings unnecessarily.  I usually run my toes at least 1/2 number higher than the shop sets them, and usually one full DIN number on the heels.

post #4 of 23

Lemme see here.  Over the years I've set mine based just as much on overall leg strength and level of skiing as it is on weight.  I haven't had a serious injury in over 30 years of aggressive skiing (yet),  I gained over 30 pounds after quitting smoking but left the DIN where it was because though I'd gained weight it was set pretty high for what I weighed in the past because back then I was skiing a lot more often and was in much better physical shape.  In a nutshell, I start out with what the chart recommends then step in and see how easy it is for me to twist out both sides both ways, and how easily I can pop the heels up stretching forward.

 

Last season they seemed just about right, but I didn't have any real yard sales.  Saturday I got clipped across the bow and went over the handlebars sideways. Left ski released exactly as it should have.   I felt fine skiing the rest of the day, but later that evening my knee started to feel a little sore.  Taking that sign, along with the fact that I now seem to be able to hurt myself just moving around normally, I realize that 46 is the age where I need to consider dropping my DIN down a tad. The chart says go down 1.5 going from 49-50 for my other stats.  I opted to take it down .75 at age 46wink.gif

post #5 of 23
Sorry duplicate post by some computer error on my part.

Rick G
Edited by rickg - 12/6/10 at 3:56pm
post #6 of 23
I am 56 and this is my 39th consecutive season. I ski hard and fast just like I did 20 and 30 years ago (thankfully I don't fall as much) and I have my bindings set accordingly. I weigh 195 and am 5'9" and have been using a 7 din on all my skis for years and it seems to work just fine

Rick G
post #7 of 23

There is a type 3+, by Salomon's chart, and ther is a waiver form you can sign to set your DIN other than the chart settings.

post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by backroom View Post

There is a type 3+, by Salomon's chart, and ther is a waiver form you can sign to set your DIN other than the chart settings.



This tool also has 3+ for Marker

 

http://www.dinsetting.com/

post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by rickg View Post

I am 56 and this is my 39th consecutive season. I ski hard and fast just like I did 20 and 30 years ago (thankfully I don't fall as much) and I have my bindings set accordingly. I weigh 195 and am 5'9" and have been using a 7 din on all my skis for years and it seems to work just fine

Rick G


I'm 5'9" and 165-170 and used compete in USSA Freestyle and Beer League racing (but weighed 120 back then).  I just cut back from 8.75 top 8.0.  I can see going back to 7.0 in 10 years for surewink.gif  If I put 3+ the DIN calculator puts me at 9.5.  If I select type 3.0 then it puts me at 8, which feels about right.  If I select 50 + for age it cuts me back to 6.5 so 7 computes for you also.

post #10 of 23

Yes. I take one number back, but then I decided I like to keep my skis on my boots when I'm doing mach schnell, so moved up the scale to 3+, or is it 3++ th_dunno-1[1].gif, so I'm back to where I want to be.

post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

Yes. I take one number back, but then I decided I like to keep my skis on my boots when I'm doing mach schnell, so moved up the scale to 3+, or is it 3++ th_dunno-1[1].gif, so I'm back to where I want to be.

I prefer to keep my legs attached to my body if I ever crash again,, but to each his ownbiggrin.gif
 

post #12 of 23

I prefer not to crash.  It's easier to avoid the obstacles and not crash when there are skis attached to the feet. 

There's no need to go nuts, but the chart value is a little rediculous.   I'm not saying crank 'em up to 20.  I've got mine set at 8  Chart says 7.  Subtracting 1 puts me at 6.  I think I'm safer at 8.  I used to crank them up to 11 when I weighed 145 lbs, but then I had access to some high speed runs.  How many WC DH or SG skiers would set their bindings at 6?  Your skis would bounce right off your feet if you went through a few bumps or frozen ruts at anywhere near SG/DH speeds with bindings set at 6.  Maybe they're saying I should slow downth_dunno-1[1].gif.  F**k that!.

 

 

post #13 of 23

How odd Ghost.  You sure you'renonono2.gif reading those little windows correctly?  I weight 170 and ski bumps, air jumps, twisters  (used to do helis), mostly GS + speed runs on skis 179-204 cm.   I haven't had an unwanted binding release in as long as I can remember, at least 15 years-probably 20.  Setting my DINS between 8 and 9 works just fine up at 170 pounds.  Might it be that you're nonono2.gif doin' it wrong?th_dunno-1[1].gif  skiing too herlky jerky and kicking out f your skis when the DIN is lower?  Nawww..   More likely that it the settings aren't really linear.  I set mine at 8,5 back when I weighed 115 pounds toocool.gif  My legs were considerably stronger per pound then than they are now.  Another factor might be the weight of the ski. My bump skis are extremely light.   It seems that a much heavier ski would require a higher DIN than a lighter one would.  How much do those 215s weigh?

 

Thoughts?confused.gif

post #14 of 23

Seems we agree.  8 or 9 works well.  6 is not enough.

http://www.dinsetting.com/dinchart.htm#MarkerChart

 

148 to 174 lbs, 5'6" to 5'10 (lowest of height or weight governs) gives you line K.  Go down two lines to get to a level III skier gets you to line M.  Go across to 315 boot sole between 311 and 330 and you get a DIN of 7.  Take off 1 because you're old and weak-boned.  That leaves 6.  Make me a 3++ and I'm at 8.5.

 

At 7 I had a ski release just sidestepping up a hill (ok I was running up it sideways, but still confused.gif), and on one or two other occasions that shouldn't have been an issue.  8 released fine when I forgot to lift my ski tips leaving the lift station in the chair redface.gif.

 

When you land jumps or do spins you still have a lot of control what happens to the ski vis a vis impact, etc.  Hitting frozen bumps and ruts at 60 mph, you just have to sail through it and soak up what you can, it's quite an impact to the ski.

 

post #15 of 23
Thread Starter 

I have been mostly skiing at a 7 (the chart rating) for Type III and don't have an issue under normal skiing conditions.  Last time I pre-released was on a Super G course and that was more technique issue as I released the weight off the ski.  Vermont ski safety says "Most retention problems are not related to the release setting and many are not even caused by the equipment at all. Often release, retention, and even performance problems are Software--that is skier--NOT Hardware related."  

 

I think the best strategy is to start at chart and work up only if needed.  I also feel you should neglect the age adjustment at 50 if you are reasonably in shape and active.  I am glad to hear that many others feel the same way.

post #16 of 23

I'm happy to say that my knee (was a bit sore from a Saturday yard sale) is no longer sore.  But, my ribs are more tender than they were Saturday or Sunday.  It is the same spot that went eek.gifPOP! just landing a moderate jump last ski day last March and took two months to heal.  I guess that is another part of my aging body that is toast from here on and will always be more fragile than normal.frown.gif  I'm just glad they didn't start hurting a lot until after I was finished skiing.

 

Anybody got Brett Farve's pharmacist contact info?th_dunno-1[1].gif

post #17 of 23

Oops, forgot to drop the binding settings after turning 50.  Must be getting old.

post #18 of 23

Forever young or forever 49beercheer.gif

post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by SnoWonder View Post  Last time I pre-released was on a Super G course and that was more technique issue as I released the weight off the ski.


On a super g course with a DIN setting of 7... that's dangerous.

 

DIN also has to do with sole length, right?  I'm 190# or so, 5'10" and I would say aggressive (too) - 57.  Moved my DIN to 8.5 and it should be 7.5 (at age 49). 

post #20 of 23

the numbers represent pieces of steel under pressure. 7 or  8  probably an affective average for an adult, and not much real difference between them. 

 

a weakening of connective tissue and bone density dropping off would indicate a lower din at some point, but it keeps receeding as I get older.

post #21 of 23

Sounds like I'm in the ballpark. 5'10" @ 190#-DIN 8. disregard age.rolleyes.gif

post #22 of 23

I've been hurt more times by skis that released when they shouldn't have than skis that failed to release when I wanted them too.

DIN chart for me says 6 but I use 6.5 on the toes and 7 on the heels.

65, 5'6", 175 pounds, and skiing since longthongs.

NASTAR Platinum mostly.

 

Longthongs........... they released by tearing the heel plate off the ski.

Did that more then once.

post #23 of 23

Yeah, I'm 58  5' 10" and around 185-190. I sign the waiver and have mine set between 8-9. I don't want 'em coming off in the race course or moguls unless I really go down.

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