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VOLKL GOTAMA-176ML TOO SHORT FOR ME?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

Im getting back into skiing after a decade or so and Cheese and Crackers have things changed! Park skis, All Mountain skis, All Mountain Wide skis, side cut radius, integrated skis, off piste- all this was unheard of back then. And the skis are sooo much shorter, which brings me to me question:

 

I am 55 yrs old, 5'11", 195. My skiing skill level  I would say is advanced. I want to learn to ski more powder and have decided to have a 2 ski quiver.  I have an opportunity to purchase 2005 Volkl Gotama 176ml to use for powder days. I believe this is a bit short but probably doable. A good learning ski?

 

What do you think?  I am considering the Volkl AC30 for my main ski-have yet to demo it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 20

Too short.

 

SJ

post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 

Thanx, SJ- I needed that.

post #4 of 20

Too short x 2.  You should be comfortable on a pre- 2009 183 Gotama as an all mountain fat ski.  FYI, if you have the money for new skis, there are a lot better options for powder specific skis since rocker came on the scene. 

post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 

Rocker- that`s another new one since I`ve returned to the scene. So, I gather a rockered ski for powder would be the way to go- if I have a 2 ski quiver - another pair for mainly on-piste.  I assume rockered skis don`t do so well carving.

post #6 of 20

SJ has far more expertise and credibility than I do, but I say too short but doable.  If the skis are cheap enough, why not buy them and give them a try?  SJ, even if he is an advanced skier, if his skiing style is "old school", won't those longer boards be a chore to control and perhaps be discouraging?  The shorter 176 Gots could be a hoot to ski, and give him an introduction to newer ski technology before he hops on the "rocker wagon". 

post #7 of 20

I am 5'8'' and 170 and ski the 08/09 Goat in 176 (love it!). I agree with the rest, you should be better on the 183.

post #8 of 20

For perspective, I'm 162 lbs and I ski the 183 Goat. This is a ski that runs very short. You will not enjoy the 176 unless its mission is strictly trees, soft bumps, and very tight places, moderate speeds. If that, and the price is incredible, go for it.

post #9 of 20

Also for perspective, I am 57 yo, 5'11", 175 lbs.  I own the 2009-2010 Gots (rockered in tip and tail) in 178 length and love 'em -- I have skied them in all types of conditions and, for me, have not found a negative or a speed limit yet, and these clearly ski shorter that the skis you have in mind.  If you are looking to go Mach speeds on groomers, then you don't want to be on the Gotamas.  If you are looking to play in crud,powder,trees, bumps, then I still say you have nothing to lose (if the price is right!).

post #10 of 20
Thread Starter 

OK- The 2005 Goats w good bottoms w Marker Titanium 1200 bindings are $350-I may take them for $325.  I don`t want to ski fast- just want to try  off piste and pick my way down at a moderate speed in control and probably of course, ski some groomed too.  Will they not float well if too short?

post #11 of 20
Meh bindings, meh price.
post #12 of 20

I agree with Comprex, you can find a better ski than a 5 year old Goat with sketchy bindings for $350.

 

Mike
 

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Meh bindings, meh price.
post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 

Thanx, guys. Comprex you crack me up.

post #14 of 20

Lousy deal, unless they are in pristine condition.  Yes, rockered skis generally don't do that well on groomers, although very recent designs are changing that.  Check out something like the K2 Sidestash, Armada JJ, or 4FRNT Renegade.  Most manufacturers are currently trying to develop skis that have the benefits of rocker (effortless flotation and manuverability), with the predictability and versatility of traditional camber.  FYI, if you are looking at new skis, something like this is going to be 500.00 plus boards only, unless you wait for the spring sales.  Used, expect to pay between 350 and 500 for something in good shape, depending on what it is.  For traditional cambered fat skis like the pre-2009 Gotama, I wouldn't pay more than 250.00 used.  These skis are becoming redundant due to the introduction of rocker and so they have a low resale value. 

post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by comprex View Post

Meh bindings, meh price.


Agree. Try for $225

post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 

Hey bbinder-How do your goats do on groomers?

post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by comprex View Post

Meh bindings, meh price.


This understates the case. The bindings truly suck. I've owned them. And "good bottoms" doesn't mean much if the core is worn out. After 75-100 days of hard skiing (likely for a ski of that age) it will be. So the skis will be dead feeling. Incidentally, they're decent on groomers, even hardpack, but very long radius for that. Trust me, you can find better deals on far newer stuff with bindings that actually work, rather than eject you into space in the middle of a turn...

post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by tooslim View Post

Hey bbinder-How do your goats do on groomers?



Mine do well for me, but many disagree... You have to really tip them up on edge in order to engage as much edge as possible.  Otherwise, those rockered tips and tails flutter in the breeze and feel real unstable.  I have not compared them to other fat skis -- search for SierraJim and Dawgcatching reviews to get an idea of a comparison.

post #19 of 20

try this:

www.oregonmegasale.com

 

at the convention center, Dec 10-12, free admission. They have usually lots of stuff.

 

Or visit Hillcrest or SkiChalet - they got some good prices on previous season's stuff.

post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 

Thanx Vladl-I`ll check it out.

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