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So what of the Rossi S3?

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Looking for a first powder oriented (30/70) ski.I am told that my skill level is lower advanced. My current ski is a Nordica Afterburner-which is basically groomer oriented that can handle a foot of powder. I can ski decently in a foot of Sierra powder with it. I like the ski, but I am looking for something that will work better in deeper, fresh, ungroomed stuff. Something that will take me to the next level, but can get me back to the parking lot with no problems. I don't want a powder specific ski at this point

 

What appeals to me about the S3 is that, from what I have read, that is does OK on groomers as well being good in two feet of fresh snow. Also the local shop carries the S3 and I like to support the local shop.

 

Thoughts?

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Looking for a first powder oriented (30/70) ski.I am told that my skill level is lower advanced. My current ski is a Nordica Afterburner-which is basically groomer oriented that can handle a foot of powder. I can ski decently in a foot of Sierra powder with it. I like the ski, but I am looking for something that will work better in deeper, fresh, ungroomed stuff. Something that will take me to the next level, but can get me back to the parking lot with no problems. I don't want a powder specific ski at this point

 

What appeals to me about the S3 is that, from what I have read, that is does OK on groomers as well being good in two feet of fresh snow. Also the local shop carries the S3 and I like to support the local shop.

 

Thoughts?


people are using these as everyday skis here at stowe.

 

translation well its 'good in powder" quit being conservative and get a proper powder ski.

 

I have nothing against the ski its just that being in the sierra nevadas this wouldnt not be my powder skis or even my wider everday day ski. get something thats 110-120 underfoot with traditional sidecut somewhere on the ski, I am giving you a new list. Of all mountain skis with a powder bias all of which will ski groomers fine on powder days. besides even getting back to the chair anywhere on a powder day I ski a groomer for 20 second.

 

Rossi S7

Rossi S6

Volkl Katana

Atomic Bentchentler

Line Propet 115

Blizzard "the answer"

PM gear Lhasa Powder

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not sure this ^^^^ is what the OP was looking for:

 

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Originally Posted by Mr5150 View Post

 

 

Looking for a first powder oriented (30/70) ski..... I don't want a powder specific ski at this point

 

What appeals to me about the S3 is that, from what I have read, that is does OK on groomers as well being good in two feet of fresh snow. ...Thoughts?


I am not an expert on powder-oriented skis, but I'm pretty sure that the list above is way too focused on the fresh/ungroomed for what Mr5150 says he wants.  This list is not 30/70 skis, but more like 10/90 skis.

I'd offer this as evidence of the "wider-is-always-better" contingent on this board.
 

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I'm not sure this ^^^^ is what the OP was looking for:

 

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Originally Posted by Mr5150 View Post

 

 

Looking for a first powder oriented (30/70) ski..... I don't want a powder specific ski at this point

 

What appeals to me about the S3 is that, from what I have read, that is does OK on groomers as well being good in two feet of fresh snow. ...Thoughts?


I am not an expert on powder-oriented skis, but I'm pretty sure that the list above is way too focused on the fresh/ungroomed for what Mr5150 says he wants.  This list is not 30/70 skis, but more like 10/90 skis.

I'd offer this as evidence of the "wider-is-always-better" contingent on this board.
 


IMHO,  most of the skis that BushwackerinPA listed might fall into the 30/70 category although closer to 20/80. The problem I see with most of them is that the OP listed himself as a "lower advanced"   with the exception of the S6 and maybe the S7, these are pretty much big strong skis.  Nothing wrong with a wider ski for this but I think he needs something more forgiving. 

 

post #5 of 12

I own the S3 and it does everything you say you want.  Because it has camber underfoot, it holds well on groomers and the early rise makes it excellent in powder and crud.  It's very playful and a blast in trees.  One thing: If you're over 5'10"and 160 lbs., get the 186 length.  The early tip and tail rise make it ski short; otherwise, the 177 is fine.  Have fun!

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Originally Posted by tch View Post

I'm not sure this ^^^^ is what the OP was looking for:

 

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Originally Posted by Mr5150 View Post

 

 

Looking for a first powder oriented (30/70) ski..... I don't want a powder specific ski at this point

 

What appeals to me about the S3 is that, from what I have read, that is does OK on groomers as well being good in two feet of fresh snow. ...Thoughts?


I am not an expert on powder-oriented skis, but I'm pretty sure that the list above is way too focused on the fresh/ungroomed for what Mr5150 says he wants.  This list is not 30/70 skis, but more like 10/90 skis.

I'd offer this as evidence of the "wider-is-always-better" contingent on this board.
 


he already has 86mm skis in his nordicas. The S3 arent that much different. they are good skis but they arent even as good on groomers as the P115, rossis own S6 and the Blizzard "the answer".  Plus I consider those skis 30/70 skis I also hate those numbers due to this. when I am out skiing I dont take 3 runs on groomer and 7 runs on everything else. I tend to ski where my skis are going to accel at.

 

with that said when I think 10/90 skis I think

 

Line P130

Blizzard Zeus

Moment Comi

Nordica Jahlove

Atomic Atlas

 

all the skis I mentioned are capable all mountain skis and I promise you if the OP would try them he would like them.

 

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Originally Posted by tch View Post

I'm not sure this ^^^^ is what the OP was looking for:

 

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Originally Posted by Mr5150 View Post

 

 

Looking for a first powder oriented (30/70) ski..... I don't want a powder specific ski at this point

 

What appeals to me about the S3 is that, from what I have read, that is does OK on groomers as well being good in two feet of fresh snow. ...Thoughts?


I am not an expert on powder-oriented skis, but I'm pretty sure that the list above is way too focused on the fresh/ungroomed for what Mr5150 says he wants.  This list is not 30/70 skis, but more like 10/90 skis.

I'd offer this as evidence of the "wider-is-always-better" contingent on this board.
 


IMHO,  most of the skis that BushwackerinPA listed might fall into the 30/70 category although closer to 20/80. The problem I see with most of them is that the OP listed himself as a "lower advanced"   with the exception of the S6 and maybe the S7, these are pretty much big strong skis.  Nothing wrong with a wider ski for this but I think he needs something more forgiving. 

 


I actually missed the lower advance part of the post, but would stand by the S6 for him. I would probably drop the blizzard, Katana, and P115 of the list though.

 

 

post #8 of 12

What about the Atomic Access? They look like they would fit the bill. 

post #9 of 12
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What about the Atomic Access? They look like they would fit the bill. 



No.......despite being tip rise only, the rise on the Access is so long that the 182 actually has a shorter running surface than the 177 S3. Also, there is no width advantage. Of the 98mm skis with tip and tail rise the three best are the S3, Blizzard One, and Dynastar Slicer. The Access was a good idea and a pretty fun/playful ski but (IMO) it was not fully thought out.

 

SJ

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Originally Posted by tch View Post

I'm not sure this ^^^^ is what the OP was looking for:

 

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Originally Posted by Mr5150 View Post

 

 

Looking for a first powder oriented (30/70) ski..... I don't want a powder specific ski at this point

 

What appeals to me about the S3 is that, from what I have read, that is does OK on groomers as well being good in two feet of fresh snow. ...Thoughts?



 



Correct^^^

 



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Quote:
Originally Posted by tch View Post

I'm not sure this ^^^^ is what the OP was looking for:

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr5150 View Post

 

 

Looking for a first powder oriented (30/70) ski..... I don't want a powder specific ski at this point

 

What appeals to me about the S3 is that, from what I have read, that is does OK on groomers as well being good in two feet of fresh snow. ...Thoughts?


I am not an expert on powder-oriented skis, but I'm pretty sure that the list above is way too focused on the fresh/ungroomed for what Mr5150 says he wants.  This list is not 30/70 skis, but more like 10/90 skis.

I'd offer this as evidence of the "wider-is-always-better" contingent on this board.
 


IMHO,  most of the skis that BushwackerinPA listed might fall into the 30/70 category although closer to 20/80. The problem I see with most of them is that the OP listed himself as a "lower advanced"   with the exception of the S6 and maybe the S7, these are pretty much big strong skis.  Nothing wrong with a wider ski for this but I think he needs something more forgiving. 

 



Rightyou are BB.

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I appreciate all the input-that goes for BW also.

 

But yes, please bear in mind that I am a lower advanced level guy. I think that from the expert POV what may seem like a fine and easy ski to you might be a bit much for a fellow like me. And truth be told, I don't mind if I outgrow a ski in a season or two. I've only been at this sport for....this will be season seven for me.

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No.......despite being tip rise only, the rise on the Access is so long that the 182 actually has a shorter running surface than the 177 S3. Also, there is no width advantage. Of the 98mm skis with tip and tail rise the three best are the S3, Blizzard One, and Dynastar Slicer. The Access was a good idea and a pretty fun/playful ski but (IMO) it was not fully thought out.

 

SJ


Speaking of running surface how does the running surface of the S3 compare to my Afterburner? My Afterburner is a 162. I am thinking that the S3 in a 168 might be too short, but the 178 might be about right. (5-6 165lbs)

 


 

post #12 of 12

The 178 would be the size for sure. Also, don't get all overwrought about width. While it's nice to have a really wide ski, it isn't really necessary most of the time in the Sierra or most other places. You will get a heck of a lot more days with less than 12" of powder than you will with more and the ~~ 100mm skis (especially the "mini rise" types) are really wide enough for those conditions. Also keep in mind the conditions you can handle and stay with something that's comfortable for that. I ski 50-75 different skis every year and recently, half have been in the range of 95mm and up (often way up). While I always own a 115mm or so ski, I'm the first to admit that about 75% of the time that I take them out, I don't need them and would have as much fun on my 94-100mm choices. Skis like the S3 make a nice transition ski to go along with your AB and will serve nicely as a middle ski of the optimal 3SQ when you get to the point where you can really use something bigger.

 

Just acting as the voice of reason here.................biggrin.gif

 

SJ

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