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Touring on Huge trouble bad idea?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

I have decided that I just don't like touring on my praxis. Should I move the dukes to the huge instead?

post #2 of 21

This guy (http://kootenayskier.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/big-trouble/) put touring bindings on the HTs and wrote somewhere in his blog (I didn't find the actual post about touring with them) that he found them way too heavy for more than short sidecountry stuff.

post #3 of 21
Especially since the Dukes weigh a lot to begin with.

On a completely different note, I fondled some Dynafit Stokes the other day. Daddy want....
post #4 of 21

Are the Dukes the problem?  Maybe consider putting Dynafits on the Huges (Hugii?).  

post #5 of 21
Thread Starter 

I am not looking for an outside te box solution. Its touing on hudge wiht dukes vs. touring on praxis with dukes. I am not buying new skis or new bindings. My boots are not techfittings and I am not spending more on new boots and bindings at this point.

 

Dukes are mandatory beucase I will use them for primarily inbounds with alpine boots. And some touring as well. 

 

I don't think the praxis tour well. They are slow on run outs and I cannot skate in them. many of the tours in logan have long approach so this stuff matters. Also they have a limited contact patch for skinning on an established track. I think the huge will be better. Am I crazy?

post #6 of 21
The "slow on runouts" I would have expected, the "limited contact patch for skinning in-track" was obvious, the "cannot skate in them" was not expected.

Is it a question of "can't find the big toe edge because of the sidecut" or "can't get hips over far enough to get high edge" or "can't find the big toe edge because of the camber" or is it "it hurts my knees/ankles to work this hard"?
post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 

Well there is reverse side cut. And no camber. They sort of work if I have my legs splayed out very wide, but in practice roads /  snowmobile tracks are not that wide so it doesn't work.

post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by TallSkinnyGuy View Post

This guy (http://kootenayskier.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/big-trouble/) put touring bindings on the HTs and wrote somewhere in his blog (I didn't find the actual post about touring with them) that he found them way too heavy for more than short sidecountry stuff.



This is where the author said something about putting Dukes on Huge Trouble (http://kootenayskier.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/rossland-range-update/).

Otherwise, I will be the next guy to put heavy AT bindings on the wrong skis. But I'm working hard at the gym for that icon14.gif.

post #9 of 21
Well, you're not crazy. IMO, YMMV wink.gif

This:
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post

They sort of work if I have my legs splayed out very wide

makes me think that the camber and the width are the primary difficulty. Do you find yourself bending forward a lot when you do make them "sort of work"?
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 

Yep.

post #11 of 21
Thread Starter 

I am going to make the switch. I think it will a much more workable ski for touring. 

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icon14.gif It was really the only answer given the "No More Purchases" and "No Out-of-The-Box Solutions" criteria.
post #13 of 21

You should consider using Binding Mount Inserts in both skis so you can swap the Dukes back and forth as needed.

 

Here's a Duke/Baron template I made if you are interested in mounting them yourself:

Baron-Duke_template.JPG

 

Note:

 

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Edited by Alpinord - 12/3/10 at 7:05pm
post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 

Terry, Do you sell inserts?

post #15 of 21

Not the SS steel ones you'd want. Nick doesn't want me to. (I have a private stash, however.)The installation is very straight forward and really increases options and can save you binding costs, along with transport convenience, ie flying.

post #16 of 21
Thread Starter 

I have the dukjes mounted "normally" right now. I will investigate this option. I assume I can just fit the inserts in to the existing holes down the road? 

post #17 of 21

You need to drill and tap 1/4" holes in your existing ones.

post #18 of 21

Apparently, the original designer of the SS inserts also sells inserts of a slightly different depth at his site Binding Freedom and also sells aluminum plates to accomadate multiple binding types on the same ski.

post #19 of 21
DynaDukeS +1
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Hey guys - I was just chatting with Terry over email, and he hipped me to this thread.

 

I'm the guy behind bindingfreedom, dynadukes, ect.

 

I won't have threaded inserts in stock until early January - BUT -  I always recommend mounting the bindings traditionally before drilling for inserts (no good drilling a 1/4" hole in the wrong place!).  I'd say, mount the dukes on the HT and go touring - you'll probably end up on them all the time anyway.  If you end up jonesing for the praxis later, you can always install inserts in both skis for a 20 spot per pair and have the freedom to ski either.


Edited by jondrums - 12/5/10 at 10:38am
post #21 of 21
Thread Starter 

So I have been on the huge a few days at the resort and also for a half day tour. Ski nice with the dukes in the resort. I prefer a flatter binding on this type of ski but its not realyl a big deal. For touring, the huge is very heavy. But the neutral camber makes so much more sense than the fully rockered praxis for skinning and it skis great on the way down. Just need to get stronger and get out on them more.

 

I will probabbly end up adding some sort of inserts to both skis.

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