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Avalung question

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Do you guys think its worth springing the 130  for an avalung or maybe the 200 for the pack?

 

Has anyone ever tried building their own/ something similar?

 

Seems to me you could achieve the same effect using some tubing and one way valves.  

post #2 of 12
If you are going to get one I would get the built in type into the pack if you dont already have a pack.

I would not try to build one.

Lastly, while I have one I am pretty skeptical as to whether I would be able to get and keep the mouthpiece into my mouth during a slide. So color me skeptical about it's overall value. If you are really interested in some sort of life saving device post slide - then I would just save up for an ABS pack. That's my next purchase.
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If you are going to get one I would get the built in type into the pack if you dont already have a pack.

I would not try to build one.

Lastly, while I have one I am pretty skeptical as to whether I would be able to get and keep the mouthpiece into my mouth during a slide. So color me skeptical about it's overall value. If you are really interested in some sort of life saving device post slide - then I would just save up for an ABS pack. That's my next purchase.


^ I could have written that post.

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That really is awful about Mr. Kay.  But his story doesn't negate the potential benefits of wearing an Avalung. I saw a report published last year, I think, in which more than 50 people have credited their survival after avalanche burial to breathing on an Avalung. While I cannot vouch for the accuracy or veracity of that reportm t seems obvious that anything that increases one's chances if caught in a slide is a good thing.

 

Typically, I ski backcountry wearing an Avalung pack.  However, I must admit that lonewolf's threads asking these questions are making me think about buying an ABS pack and skiing with that plus a bandolier Avalung. 

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I didn't mean to indicate that there aren't potential benefits, just that it's life-saving potential isn't a given.  

 

Why would you wear an ABS pack and an Avalung?  

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Why would you wear an ABS pack and an Avalung?  



Training weight?

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post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 

I'm not questioning the ability of an avalung to increase the chances of survival when a victim is able to use it but I have serious doubts about being able to get it in place in time unless skiing with it in my mouth.

 

Sorry about teh double thread post I posted in the general forum and realized it was better suited for here. Guess I should have had the mods move the original one

post #10 of 12

Had a friend last year get the rug pulled out from under him on Jones Pass.  He was able to get the avalung in his mouth very easily actually.  He also did not end up getting buried as he was able to struggle his way off to the side.  So as far as being able to keep it in your mouth during the burial process goes, I imagine that is harder.  There have been a few rescues where people were saved by using their avalung.  At least one guy was buried for so long he spit it out a few minutes before his rescuers were able to dig him out.  Heli op stuff I am pretty sure. 

 

As far as getting it in your mouth, if you have the avalung out and ready to deploy, you stand a chance.  Of course it'll be better if it's already in your mouth, but aside from that, making it as easy to put it in there as possible is the next best thing. 

 

Good decision making should make the point moot.  Not getting caught by an avalanche means you shouldn't have to use it.  Consider it a "cool" accessory to have.

 

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I didn't mean to indicate that there aren't potential benefits, just that it's life-saving potential isn't a given.  

 

Why would you wear an ABS pack and an Avalung?  



Bob, I think you answered your own question.  None of these things are guarantees, but none are mutually exclusive, and each level of preparation and prevention increases one's chances of survival. Level 1 is knowledge, awareness, and avalanche avoidance.  Level 2 might be an ABS pack to keep your body high in the slide (I doubt above it) and thus make you less likely to be killed by rocks either moving with the slide or below it, and make you less likely to be buried.  It might also protect you if you are flung against a treetrunk (a helmet would be a good idea as well).  Level 3 might be an Avalung to survive if your head is buried and you can't punch out to the surface.  Level 4 is your beacon and your buddies. Possibly there are others.  A bandolier Avalung weighs almost nothing. And, perhaps unlike most of you for whom this discussion is theoretical, I have been in an avalanche.  I don't recommend it.

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I didn't mean to indicate that there aren't potential benefits, just that it's life-saving potential isn't a given.  

 

Why would you wear an ABS pack and an Avalung?  


Bob, I think you answered your own question.  None of these things are guarantees, but none are mutually exclusive, and each level of preparation and prevention increases one's chances of survival. Level 1 is knowledge, awareness, and avalanche avoidance.  Level 2 might be an ABS pack to keep your body high in the slide (I doubt above it) and thus make you less likely to be killed by rocks either moving with the slide or below it, and make you less likely to be buried.  It might also protect you if you are flung against a treetrunk (a helmet would be a good idea as well).  Level 3 might be an Avalung to survive if your head is buried and you can't punch out to the surface.  Level 4 is your beacon and your buddies. Possibly there are others.  A bandolier Avalung weighs almost nothing.


Well, if all that plays out for you, then right on.  I know some people that wear suspenders and a belt.  

 

 

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 And, perhaps unlike most of you for whom this discussion is theoretical, I have been in an avalanche.  I don't recommend it.

 

While I wouldn't characterize my relationship with avalanches as theoretical, your admonishment is duly noted.  

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