Your posted reply is a great validation of most/all of my points.
Exactly THREE resorts/ski areas in the U.S. do not allow snowboarding - Alta, Deer Valley and Mad River Glen. THREE!! Out of 424 resorts/ski areas in the United States.
That's 0.7%!! From 100% 33 years ago to 0.7% today. And you want to use that as evidence of prevailing snowboarder persecution and a persistent, white-hot rivalry?? If anything, that is overwhelming evidence of nearly complete capitulation on the part of the skiing community to the acceptance of snowboarding as a legitimate companion sport, and this evidence is only confirmed by the fact that large numbers of resorts constructed pipe and park facilities specifically to target the boarding community!
Are you certain this wasn't simply sound safety advice? After all, snowboarders have a blind spot on their backside from the perpendicular to the fall line on back up the slope, while skiers do not ... does it not follow then that skiers must "watch out" for snowboarders since snowboarders certainly can't see skiers in their blind spot?
If the "hard" evidence (i.e. an actual problem on the hill) has never existed for you, I would posit that the "rift" you're hearing about "often enough" is in fact the residual bitterness and resentment that always exist in the aftermath of conflict ... and that in fact a major "physical" rift no longer exists on the slopes.
I didn't suggest anything of the kind (I suggest you read my posts more carefully before replying). Instead, I stated the historical facts and factors that drove ALL RESORTS AND SKI AREAS to shun snowboarding in the sports' early years -- primarily the inability to get liability insurance for snowboarders at any price, which meant they were uncovered and thus potentially liable for any and all financial lawsuits related to accidents involving snowboarders, which worked in combination with the fear of losing their core revenue from rich skiers if they allowed snowboarding to preclude its consideration. Today, there is no doubt Alta and Deer Valley would make more money if they allowed snowboarding ... but quite simply, a mere THREE resorts out of FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR have remained committed to skiers. I would guess that if snowboarding had been the original sport and skiing hadn't obtained its first insurance indemnification until 1977, those numbers would simply be reversed, and three resorts out there would be snowboard-only resorts despite the potential loss of revenue from devotees of the new hip sport of Alpine skiing.
Of course they have ... because ski areas COULD NOT GET liability insurance to cover snowboarding prior to 1977 (not because it was too expensive, but because insurance companies WOULD NOT UNDERWRITE such policies due to a lack of actuarial data and educated projections to assess the potential risks, thus fully exposing the resorts to potential lawsuits), which forced snowboarders to the backcountry powder to enjoy their sport.
I don't ... from my experience with dozens of friends who are snowboarders, they love powder every bit as much as I or any of my skiing friends do. But in the early years of rift/conflict between the groups, one major source of the tension was the fact that boarders would hike up an in-bounds bowl or face after a fresh dump and cut wide swaths of powder away across half the face as bewildered skiers above them looked on in utter disbelief. This was disrespectful on the part of the new guests, and if you can't see that, then there's no wonder the rift still lingers for some....
Most of your post is exemplifies the point I made in mine. Maybe the industry will have to wait until stubborn old timers like you get too old to go back on the hill and teach your prejudices to the next generation before the rivalry goes away.
Impossible ... every time out skiing in the last 10 years, I have skiied with a mixed group of alpine skiers, snowboarders and nordic skiers who are good friends and share a deep love of snow sports and the mountains ... no stubborness, no perceptible prejudice or biases, and absolutely no animosity.
It would appear to be the newcomers such as yourself, who lack the historical awareness and perspective of others who watched the emergence of snowboarding and learned to share the mountain over many years, who have been infected with this prejudice you reference and have thus joined the ranks of those vocal minorities on the extremes.
Edited by LaneMeyerK12 - 12/2/10 at 5:57am