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Atomic Race D2 SL - difficult to handle?

post #1 of 9
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Hello,

 

I am 185cm (6ft1) , 84kg. I just got myself the 2009/2010 Atomic Race SL Double Deck 170cm. The shop owner suggested that if I am an advanced skier I should get these as they are not too difficult to handle and that they are quite versatile - slalom skis that remain stable at higher speeds when doing GS turns (this is why I got the 170cm pair)

 

Initially I didn't intend to buy these but I got a great price and I did. Now I am reading some reviews and it appears that they are not that easy to handle at all and they are destined to competition level skiers.

 

I would consider myself an advanced intermediate/advanced skier and I am now worried that I got overly ambitious and will not be able to enjoy these skis. What do you think?

 

Thanks

 

Dean

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Originally Posted by tantus View Post

Hello,

 

I am 185cm (6ft1) , 84kg. I just got myself the 2009/2010 Atomic Race SL Double Deck 170cm. The shop owner suggested that if I am an advanced skier I should get these as they are not too difficult to handle and that they are quite versatile - slalom skis that remain stable at higher speeds when doing GS turns (this is why I got the 170cm pair)

 

Initially I didn't intend to buy these but I got a great price and I did. Now I am reading some reviews and it appears that they are not that easy to handle at all and they are destined to competition level skiers.

 

I would consider myself an advanced intermediate/advanced skier and I am now worried that I got overly ambitious and will not be able to enjoy these skis. What do you think?

 

Thanks

 

Dean

 

The FIS WC Race SL was only produced in 155 and 165, so this is the recreational version. As such I think you should be fine. Not sure about the radius - around 14.5m maybe? Not exactly GS turns, but a a bit longer and and way more forgiving than the FIS ski. Should think they'd be a whole bundle of fun on the steep and icy - carvers delight.
 

post #3 of 9

I had the last year D2 SL in165 and loved it..... Edge grip - fantastic

For me it was very easy to handle them.. They are very stable at speed for their lenght... These are stiff skis that love to carve... I don't know about your skills, but I didn't have any issues with them,so you shouldn't too..

 

Don't worry and go skiing you are going to love it......

post #4 of 9
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Thanks for the reply, Squawker. Do you think they are the right length for me (me - 1m85 (6ft1) and 84 kg, the skis - 170cm)? I bought the longest SL skis out there for more stability at higher speed/longer turns but now I wonder whether I did the right thing.

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I had the last year D2 SL in165 and loved it..... Edge grip - fantastic

For me it was very easy to handle them.. They are very stable at speed for their lenght... These are stiff skis that love to carve... I don't know about your skills, but I didn't have any issues with them,so you shouldn't too..

 

Don't worry and go skiing you are going to love it......



andy4g6, how tall are you?

post #6 of 9

I am just  a tad over 5'10"/ 178cm and 170 lbs.

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The FIS WC Race SL was only produced in 155 and 165, so this is the recreational version. As such I think you should be fine. Not sure about the radius - around 14.5m maybe? Not exactly GS turns, but a a bit longer and and way more forgiving than the FIS ski. Should think they'd be a whole bundle of fun on the steep and icy - carvers delight.

 

 

The retail/recreational slaloms actually have a smaller turning radius than the FIS race stock version.  My 165 cm FIS slaloms (non-D2) have a radius of 13 m, I believe, but the retail version in the longer 107 cm length only has a 12 m radius and an an even tighter 11.5 m radius at 165 cm.  I've always found race stock slaloms to be far more stable at speed and retail versions to be skittish.  This has held true with all the race stock slaloms I've used over the past 30 years or so.  In this case, the double deck might dampen the ski and make it feel more stable at speed versus the longer radius non-D2 FIS ski (just guessing, as I haven't skied the retail D2 slalom).
 

post #8 of 9

This year's D2 Race SL (rec racer) in the 170 cm length has dimensions listed as 122.5, 67, 109 and radius of 12 m.

 

This year's Race D2 SL (FIS model) at 165 cm is listed as 118, 65.7, 102.2 and radius of 12.5 m.

 

I don't have the specs handy for last year's models, but they do follow the pattern described by exracer.

 

It's also true that the rec racer doesn't have the stiffness and dampening of the FIS model.  One thing it does have is a bigger sweet spot, which makes it more comfortable and more versatile for general recreational skiing.

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Originally Posted by tantus View Post

 Do you think they are the right length for me (me - 1m85 (6ft1) and 84 kg, the skis - 170cm)? I bought the longest SL skis out there for more stability at higher speed/longer turns but now I wonder whether I did the right thing.


Buying a little longer SL ski will not bring you any more stability, even if you get 175cm..  Theses skis/even they are non FIS/ are made with huge sidecut and very narrow waist and very small taper angle... They are made to  make small radius SL turns.. Doing just that you'll be fine..

 

But if you start trying to do 17-18m and bigger GS type turns they going to be unstable at speed,cause all they want to do is small radius turns.

 

On the other hand tuning the skis differently will have some impact on their behavior... Going from 0.5* - 4* tune for example to a 1*- 2-3*, will make the skis less grabby and a little more forgiving...

Hope this helps.

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