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All-mountain skis for "progressing intermediate"

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

First of all, saying hello; this is my first post here, but I've been lurking here for past couple of seasons.

 

I'm level 7 or so, depending on a day - this is my 4th season. 5'11'', around 205 lbs.

 

I've been skiing Dynastar D-Stinct Plus, and I think I'm at the point where the ski is starting to limit my progress. Essentially, I struggle with ungroomed/chop/crud. Going back to school this year, but wonder if I need something more versatile compared to the DStincts.

 

Thanks,

-MB

post #2 of 15

I think that an upgrade is certainly in  order. The Distinct is a pretty good example of what it is supposed to be but it's just not enough ski for a 205# L-7 skier. Your size and skiing level will typically suggest a fairly high end ski in the range of 175-180cm or so (depending a little on the ski). Before recommending something, I'd want to know a little more about your skiing. So.............

 

Do you ski east or west? (harder snow vs. softer snow)

What percentage on groomed trails vs. ungroomed loose snow conditions? (80%-20%....or???)

Important Q......how do you prioritize those two different conditions? (what's most important to you?)

What are your goals? (ski faster/better on groomers? or better in off trail conditions?)

 

SJ

post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 

Good point, I should've been more specific.

I am in Pacific Northwest. 90% or so of my skiing this season will be at Stevens Pass. "Cascade Cement" for snow.

So far, I've been pretty much skiing groomed (when by choice :) ). The part of the problem is that there's barely anything beyond blues that are groomed here - to add variety, I _have_ to start skiing ungroomed.

 

I'd say that I'd like to get to being able to do 60% groomed / 40 % ungroomed. I'm fairly ok on whatever groomed is available here - again, that means blues. The primary goal - being able to deal with and enjoy more than just a groomed run for now, basically. That includes whatever blacks are available out here.

 

-MB

post #4 of 15

OK....good job on the clarification. First I'd note that I personally think that a "groomed black" is something of an oxymoron. But....anyway.......on we go.

 

From your clarification, I'd deduce that you are probably an aspiring level 7 skier and hence despite your weight, you probably won't benefit much from a very stiff ski. I'd also surmise that you will still be skiing groomers pretty often so I probably would make sure to suggest something with a fairly conventional camber profile.

 

Medium flex skis with a bit of bias toward packed snow.........

 

Dynastar Sultan 85

Rossignol SC 86

Fischer Motive 84

 

Medium flex ski that is bit more biased toward off trail than the above.......

 

Dynastar Sultan 94

 

SJ

 

post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the suggestions!

 

What length should I be looking for this skis in?

 

-MB

post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 

bump ? :)

post #7 of 15

Likely something around 175cm.  Could go as long as 180 if they are twintips and you truly want to ski more off of the groomed.

 

Mike.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions!

 

What length should I be looking for this skis in?

 

-MB

post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 

So, particularly in Sultans, would it be more reasonable to get 172 or 178? (Considering I would switch from fairly shorter skis)

post #9 of 15

I'd say that 178 is your best call. I seldom suggest a 172 for your weight and we are not talking about exceptionally stiff skis.

 

FWIW.....I'm 205 and 178 would be my go to for a Sultan 85. (175 for a Motive 84)

 

SJ

post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks!

 

Ordered a pair of 2010 Sultans 85 in 178 for $550. Now if it only would snow enough around here ! :)

post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 

Update :) Got them delivered today. After reading a whole bunch of topics mentioning that factory tune on these is so-so, I'm inclined to take them in to get a tune done (need to do binding adjustment anyway).

Now, what do I ask to be done for the edges, considering I'm in northwest - 1/2 or 1/3 degrees?

post #12 of 15

I'm in the east so I tune everything 1/3, but how often are you on truly "hard" snow?  If the answer is only occasionally then 1/2 is the call.  If it's more often than occasionally I'd go 1/3 for more edge bite.

 

Mike
 

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Update :) Got them delivered today. After reading a whole bunch of topics mentioning that factory tune on these is so-so, I'm inclined to take them in to get a tune done (need to do binding adjustment anyway).

Now, what do I ask to be done for the edges, considering I'm in northwest - 1/2 or 1/3 degrees?

post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 


Never been skiing out in the east - so I'm not sure exactly what qualifies as "hard" snow out there. I still plan on being on piste for at least 50-60 persent of time, and there's plenty of crud and chop to deal with here. Occasionaly things get iced though. Do I understand that 1/2 is what I need to go with then?
 

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I'm in the east so I tune everything 1/3, but how often are you on truly "hard" snow?  If the answer is only occasionally then 1/2 is the call.  If it's more often than occasionally I'd go 1/3 for more edge bite.

 

post #14 of 15

Hard in the east typically means ice, where out west hard is typically packed powder or windblown hard snow.

 

You should be fine with 1/2.  You can always retune them 1/3 later on if you need more edge hold.

 

Mike
 

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Never been skiing out in the east - so I'm not sure exactly what qualifies as "hard" snow out there. I still plan on being on piste for at least 50-60 persent of time, and there's plenty of crud and chop to deal with here. Occasionaly things get iced though. Do I understand that 1/2 is what I need to go with then?
 

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Originally Posted by MikeC View Post

I'm in the east so I tune everything 1/3, but how often are you on truly "hard" snow?  If the answer is only occasionally then 1/2 is the call.  If it's more often than occasionally I'd go 1/3 for more edge bite.

 


 
post #15 of 15

Ski on them first.

 

That's a great choice.  Can't go wrong with Starthaus!

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