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Atomic Metron B5 Replacement

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

I like these skis from 2005 very much, but they won't last much longer for me. I am looking for replacement suggestions.

 

These 152 cm B5 are good all-mtn for me. I have and like the Contact 4x4 more than the B5 in harder snow. But when it dumps a couple feet in the Sierra, the 165 cm 4x4 don't perform (or compensate for my lower skill level) as well as the shorter B5. I like to have something better than the B5 for deeper snow without compromising its hard snow performance.

 

TIA

post #2 of 9

Any idea for width? 85mm is probably the maximum width if you don't want to compromise too much on hard snow performance, and even that is going to be a bit of a downer compared to the 4x4, which holds like a race ski.  If you want something 80-85mm, there are some good choices:

 

Head Monster iM82 (pre-2011)

Volkl AC50

Blizzard Magnum 8.7 or 8.1. Atlas holds well, but it isn't quick like a narrower ski. 

Elan Magfire 82Xti

Salomon X-wing Fury (old model), Enduro (new model)

Stockli XXL, VXL

Kastle MX88 (a little wider, but still a superb hard snow ski)

Fischer Motive 84 (really good all-around ski, one of the best new skis of the year)

Dynastar Sultan 85.  Even the 94 may work, although it won't hold as well on hard snow. Surprisingly good, though. 

 

If you are looking for shorter skis, I am not sure how many of these are made in lengths shorter than 165cm.  A few are, but not that many. 

post #3 of 9

^^^^Nice list, lot of skis that would satisfy nearly anyone in their right mind. I'd only add, though, that none of these really capture the hyper-carver thing that characterized the B-5's, for better or worse. If you like that locked into the arc feeling, I'd think about a new pair of Head Titans, or perhaps last year's Nordica Helldiver CA's. (Yeah, neither are around 85, and both are damper, but other than that, each would replicate that fat but shorter length, shorter radius insanity.)

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^^^^Nice list, lot of skis that would satisfy nearly anyone in their right mind. I'd only add, though, that none of these really capture the hyper-carver thing that characterized the B-5's, for better or worse. If you like that locked into the arc feeling, I'd think about a new pair of Head Titans, or perhaps last year's Nordica Helldiver CA's. (Yeah, neither are around 85, and both are damper, but other than that, each would replicate that fat but shorter length, shorter radius insanity.)



Good point, had forgotten about the B5's super short radius.  Off of the stuff I mentioned, I think the Sultan 85 is the ski that likes to turn the most.  Titan's are great, I really liked it last year in 170cm. The 177cm was a beast, though. Jekyll and Hyde.

 

post #5 of 9

If you already like the 4x4 better than the B5 on hard snow, why not just get a new pair of wider skis for the softer/deeper days.

 

 

May be back in the days - but today, the B5 would not be my go to ski for a day when it dump a couple of feet in the sierra.     

 

BTW, the metron were great when it lasted - had 3 pairs. 

Try something softer & wider for the soft/deep stuff. You'll will be happier.

post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 

Guys, thanks for the excellent info. Would the skis on Dawgcatching's list fall into KingGrump's softer & wider category for deep snow? I still want a pair of skis that can carve on hard snow (I know it's not just the skis, but you know what I mean) but am willing to compromise on that behavior in exchange for better deep snow performance. BTW, I am around 140 lbs.

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Elan Magfire 82Xti

Salomon X-wing Fury (old model), Enduro (new model)

Stockli VXL

Kastle MX88 (a little wider, but still a superb hard snow ski)

Fischer Motive 84 (really good all-around ski, one of the best new skis of the year)

Dynastar Sultan 85.  Even the 94 may work, although it won't hold as well on hard snow. Surprisingly good, though. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by ChuckT View Post

Would the skis on Dawgcatching's list fall into KingGrump's softer & wider category for deep snow? ... BTW, I am around 140 lbs.


IMO, the skis I didn't edit out of his list would be better in soft snow for someone of your size. But a couple of them (MX88, Stockli VXL) would have to be short (as in, 168-169) to flex decently for you at normal soft snow speeds, and that tends to erase a lot of the float advantage. Personally, I'd think about the Fury (I've heard here that the Enduro is vastly different, much stiffer, hand flexing in a store confirmed latter), Motive 84, or Sultan 85 in the low-middle 170's. Of those, bet the Fury would be the  most playful and soft snow oriented, the Motive likely would have the best carving chops, suspect the Sultan splits the difference, thus the most versatile. (But Dawg, others, can fill you in better than my assumptions.) None of them will slingshot you around like the B-5, but don't think you want that in powder anyway...

post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks, beyond. For the short turn slingshot replacement on hard snow, I am lusting after the Fischer RC4 SC Pro. I also have a lot of fun currently with my 4x4 and don't feel I waste my ticket money without the B5 on hard snow. In the deep stuff, the B5 barely give me enough float to ski around. The 4x4 get stuck unless the slope is quite a bit steeper. I don't know how the experts do it on skinny skis. I am told you can ski deep power on SL skis if you are good, but I have given up and will get fatter skis.

 

Are the Motive, Sultan, or Fury good in soft snow covered with a choppy, and thin frozen layer? The heavy B5 can cut through it surprisingly well for me. I would very much like to retain that capability.

post #9 of 9

There really is no direct replacement for the B5 or for the Metrons in general. As great as that ski was/is for certain things, there are many many skis with a more diverse skill set. Check out this thread for a broad swipe at several of those.

 

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/96369/the-crazy-88s-revisited-2011-mini-reviews

 

Among several great skis in that group, one that seems to retain at least some of the B5 hard snow character while offering a reasonable tradeoff in mixed snow would be the Blizzard Mag 8.7. Of course it is much wider at the waist than the B5 and not as tight in TR but the Mag 8.7 is tenacious on hard snow and yet aw tractable as in softer snow as can be reasonbaly expected from a "Giant Carver"

 

SJ

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