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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

I have been skiing for about a year now, i feel Im naturally a decent skiier. Over the summer i bought myself a pair of Nordica Dobberman Spitfire pro  with xbi ct binding. I bought these skis in hope to race in the winter of 11-12 because the college i plan on attending has a club race team. In the next year how can i prepare myself to race? Should I consistantly work on Blacks and double blacks? Are their any techniques that i should become familiar with? I have already began a  pretty nasty leg routine and stretching for the off season and during season. Just looking for advice to be the best i can become in a year before i transfer to that school

post #2 of 17

Join a race club.  Virtually every hill has one. So you will be better off doing that, then anything else.

post #3 of 17

Absolutely get some true race training.  It'll revolutionize your skiing.  Learning to LOOK for speed in how you turn, learning to react smoothly, etc.  Most mountains have a team.  And if you've only been skiing a year and want to be known in the club for more than your drinking you'll need help reaching the level of most of the kids, even on a club team.

post #4 of 17

Many hills have weekend/Holiday NASTAR.  It's a very tame place to start. 


However, you will do better with good fitting boots and crappy skis than the other way around.


You need to learn to carve.  If you can't carve, you can race, but you will always be one of the last ones.


Carving is probably the most important skill to have in racing.


If you're going to college in 11/12, can you join your HS team now?


See if your local hill has a junior race program you can join.


If you are going to race at the college level, you need to spend some serious time on the hill this year.


Figuring out racing on your own is very difficult.  You need lessons or someone to mentor you that knows what they're doing.


Have fun.  Once you start you're hooked.

post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thing is i live about an hr and a half to the closet mountain, there is no ski team for my school, plus im not in highschool im in college. I own a good pair of a boots not racing performance but they fit will. The club team that i plan on attending races teams like penn state upenn princeton and  lehigh, do you think the competition will really be that stiff? none of those schools are very close to any large scale mountains.  Just a thought.


Is there anything that i can do to improve off the snow?

post #6 of 17

As stated join a race program and you will learn to ski faster and more efficiently.


You see a lot of good skiers that can't race but you will never see a good racer that can't ski

post #7 of 17

Off the snow strength training is your best bet...other cross training stuff like roller blading or what have you wont make much of a difference in reality...a few percent at most.


As for the calibre at your future college hard to say for sure, but more then likley you are going to get creamed....bad.  I am assuming you are talking "varsity team" not just the "ski club" which is often as much about drinking as anything else....


But having said that, we all need to start somewhere, so dont give up.  1.5 hours is nothing, if you are serious, look around for race programs..they exist.  If you dont do it this year...then you will only be 1 year older when you do.

post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys i really appreciate your help and advice,

Im really serious about this and im hoping i can make something of this.

I just checked my local mountain and they have Open ski clinics, they are on mondays so i will only be able to get in about 4 before my next semester starts.  Im going to be hitting the mountain about 2 times a week once this semester is over, i hope with the combination of that, some instruction from the clinics and the off season training i will be as ready as i can possibly be. One year of learning on the college team should be so bad anyway, theres always the 2012-2013 season ;)

post #9 of 17

You don't say where you are, sounds like PA.  Possibly Blue Mountain is your ski area.  They have a team, as does Camelback and Shawnee.  They train on weekends.  Tough to give up a weekend, I know, but when I used to live in West Chester, I drove up each weekend day to ski Camelback, took roughly 2.25 hours each way.  Get up early, get some training.  I doubt whether the club has real training from a coach.  Just running gates is only about 1/10 of what you need.

post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 

Im from new jersey, i usually go to mountain creek since its the closest to me.  I would definitely be interested in joining a team, how much do they cost to join on average?

post #11 of 17

Mountain Creek definitely has a team. 


Expenses vary a lot with the program.  Mountain Creek

post #12 of 17

Which specific college are you planning to attend?  It sounds like you will be either in the USCSA New Jersey conference or the USCSA Allegheny conference.

Once we know the college, folks will be probably be able to comment on the competitiveness (USSA points levels, likely racing backgrounds like JOs, etc.) of the conference and possibly the team.  

You can be thankful that you are not trying to get on a top USCSA team like Sierra Nevada College or many NCAA teams where they recruit heavily from overseas and racing backgrounds include Trofeo Topolino, national team members, FIS point profiles of less than 50 points.

One of the best things that you can do is to shoot lots of video of yourself both freeskiing & in gates and then ask for feedback by posting the videos on EpicSki and other places.  Look into using movement analysis software like Dartfish or V1 Sports (there may be trial or free versions available from these companies) to analyze your videos.  


Racing with consistent coaching is one of the best ways to improve your skiing ability the fastest.


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post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 

I plan on attending Rutgers University So ill be in the New Jersey Conference. Any one familiar with this conference?

They say they start every season with an clinic in toronto with some professional racers to better prepare us for racing.

 It seems that they are not all that selective in recruiting ill just work as hard as i can in the time that is given.

post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 

Also, as far as my boots go, I am using Atomic M-tech M80s. From what i understand these are a soft boot not really made for racing, Will these be ok to practice in for the next year or will it be a major decrease in performance?

Edited by FB User (Private) - 11/22/10 at 5:59pm
post #15 of 17

As long as the boots fit you correctly, they'll be fine.  They aren't a race boot but you aren't a racer...yet.  Having a boot that is too stiff when starting out can hold you back.  This boot, provided it fits correctly, should be fine.

post #16 of 17

At least initially, equipment will not be your issue.  Tactics and form will be your issues.  And, since you are a beginner, you will need coaching to get to the point where the equipment is the issue unless you are only preparing for POST college racing. 

post #17 of 17

I don't think you fully understand the commitment that collegiate ski racing requires.  Our son was in a race development program at Buck Hill near Minneapolis when we lived there.  At age 5 he was skiing 2-3 days a week and we knew many kids under 10 that were skiing 4-5 days a week.  He hooked up with a team after we moved to Montana and after about a year he quit.  He said he just wanted to have fun skiing and racing was beginning to feel like work.  If you just started skiing a year ago, skiing 2 days a week is unlikely to get you on a college team.  You might be able to train with them but not actually race.  You will be competing against kids who've been racing since they were 5-6 years old and they will be very good.

Edited by mtcyclist - 12/1/10 at 9:33pm
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