Originally Posted by thion
Originally Posted by exracer
Back in the old days, a race stock GS was under 20m (rack GS skis are still around 15-18m) and they made perfect all-round cruisers for the groomers. Those days are gone, though, and I find there's just too big a jump between a race stock SL and a GS ski.
How old to be specific? Do you think a pair of these old fis skis are common or at least exists on ebay or any other site?
I read that the old gs skis were like r=25 for men....but I might be wrong?
Crap.... after being part way through a big reply, I accidentally closed my browser tab.
Anyway, the race stock Atomic r>21m FIS GS:11 from 2003 to 2007 should fit the bill for you. The 2003 (designated GS:11.21 on the tail and simply GS:11 on the tip) is solid red with black graphics and was the year I believe they intro'd the sharkskin textured topskin. The rack versions were 18m, I believe. Here's a link to what they look like, but the description is wrong where it implies this is the 2005/06 model http://www.skis.com/race-skis/c705/atomic-gs-11-race-skis-p117302.html I have a pair of these in a 181cm length and they make a really nice all-round high performance cruiser.
In 2004 they changed the graphics on the GS:11 but the ski was basically the same r>21m design (rack skis r>18m). They looked like this http://www.ski-review.com/ski_reviews/review/atomic_gs11_2004/
With a little luck you should be able to find a used pair of either of these r>21m versions on the discussion boards or eBay.
Here's a pair that's currently on eBay, but it's not perfectly clear whether this is the race stock r>21m version. Although the ad refers to FIS, the fact they have Atomic 614 bindings rather than 1018 bindings makes me wonder. You'd need to confirm whether these are r>21m with the seller. His "Buy It Now" price is also high, but he has contact info in the ad so you should be able to negotiate them down to $200 or less, which is a more than fair price for a race stock ski of this vintage. http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Race-05-06-Atomic-GS-11-185cm-/350410585514?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51961935aa
The recent crop of r>27m FIS GS skis started in 07/08, and Atomic changed the model designation that year to GS:12. They also changed the construction from a beta design to sandwich. Here are the details from the 2008 Atomic race (FIS) catalog http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/atomic-2459/alpine-race-2007-2008-12360/page-4-fullsize.html The rack skis this year moved up a bit as well to 19m for 180cm and 19.5m for 186cm. The following year (2009) they changed the graphics to the more familiar white ski with red lettering http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SDO&Product_Code=A085050 I have a pair of these in 191cm length, and the radius is slightly under 30m. You want to steer clear of these 'bad boys' as they are useless (and dangerous) for free skiing. Like I said in my earlier post, unless you're on a perfectly groomed,deserted race hill, with fencing to prevent an accidental foray into the trees, there's no point skiing on them.
Edited by exracer - 11/22/10 at 8:09am