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post #271 of 293

Oh, but I like my boot and hand warmers.  Guess I'll have to get an iPhone.  

post #272 of 293

if you don't need boot warmers to keep your toes warm, your boots are obviously too big for you.  wink.gif

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I do however really hate those folks who constantly have to brag about their toys. They fall usually into the same category as those who need to have boot and glove warmers.


So folks who brag about toys have cold hands and feet.  I never would have thought of that.  Does that mean that bragging causes ones feet and hands to feel cold, or is it cold feet and hands cause bragging?  I think some research is required here.


Not sure whether bragging helps cold feet ;-)

 

I was more illuding to the mindset that some folks have. Guess it's associated with resort type vacationers who have one week to satisfy their cravings, and hence they use all the available gizmos, whether high-tech or low-tech. I just recall this from a conversation with a co-worker who was bragging that he wiped out on a very steep black run, and that he needed ski-partol to retrieve the batteries for his boot warmers, but luckily his GPS recorded the fall-line and it was awesome. It's just so different from somebody like me who goes up there every week once, and I could not care less about those toys, as long as I have decent skis and boots, a season pass (or two ;-))  
 

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Personally, if it's zero F and below I put on my Boot Gloves. Hardly high tech, but a friend yesterday discovered their worth.  She accidentally left on behind at lunch.  Later when I called her, she realized why ONE FOOT was way colder than the other and hadn't noticed the glove missing until she got my call.

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if you don't need boot warmers to keep your toes warm, your boots are obviously too big for you.  wink.gif



Or you ski in Minnesotatongue.gif  There were many January days I wouldn't have skied there had we not always been 4 minutes from the lodge (unless the hopmad.giffreakin' lift stopped).  I also remember having classes fishbone up the hill to warm our feet (and everything else) up mid lesson.

post #276 of 293

You guys are silly. Everyone knows you just take off your shirt and burn it to keep warm in winter. Sheesh!

Check this out: Note the use of iphones prevented him from hearing his friend's warning.

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Lost ’boarder rescued
 

By Angus M. Thuermer Jr., Jackson Hole, Wyo.
January 10, 2011

A snowboarder lost out of bounds near Jackson Hole Mountain Resort on Friday evening tried to burn a shirt to keep warm before rescuers found him, a park official said Sunday.

Jackson Hole ski patrollers, who were helping rangers from Grand Teton National Park, found Steven Sprague, 20, of Rapid City, South Dakota, at 6:20 p.m. in the park’s Granite Canyon, adjacent to the resort. He was in good shape but unprepared to spend the night. He was helped to the trailhead by 10:30 p.m., park and resort officials said.

“It could have turned out much more serious than it was,” park spokeswoman Jackie Skaggs said Sunday. Because he was at the resort, “he didn’t have a lot of clothing on” or equipment for a bivouac, she said.

When Mountain Resort ski patrollers got to him, he was trying to make a fire with his outer shirt,” Skaggs said. “He was stripped down to his T-shirt.”

“One of the serious parts is this happened late in the day,” Skaggs said. Temperatures that dipped to about 20 degrees could have made a night out dangerous. “He wouldn’t have had that extra warmth if he had had to spend the night,” she said of the shirt.

Officials gave the following account of Sprague’s excursion.

He and friends left the resort’s south boundary at 4:20 p.m. headed for Cody Bowl. Friends realized they were going the wrong way and shouted to Sprague, but they could not get his attention because he was wearing earphones for an iPod.

Instead of staying on the east side of Rendezvous Mountain, Sprague went west into the Granite Creek drainage in Grand Teton. The route winds around the ski area for several miles, much of it difficult to traverse on a snowboard, before emptying out in the valley.

Sprague’s friends got back to the resort and alerted ski patrollers.

Ski patrol leader Jake Elkins checked avalanche danger and sent three of his team after the missing snowboarder. Because of the steep, cliff-studded terrain, Elkins set up a command center at the top of the ski mountain to help park rangers with the rescue. Rangers began searching the canyon from the bottom up.

At approximately 5:30 p.m., the three patrollers picked up a fresh snowboard track in an area known as Targhee Woods. Soon after, they found Sprague and helped him down to the rangers, a snowmobile and the trailhead.

Resort officials used the incident to remind skiers and snowboarders of the risks involved in leaving boundaries to ski or ride areas that are not patrolled. Officials also warned about avalanches and urged backcountry travelers to use the daily Bridger-Teton National Forest Avalanche Center forecast, found online at www.jhavalanche.org.

While the search for Sprague was underway, the park got a call from two Minnesota men who said they became disoriented while snowshoeing the trails to Bradley and Taggart lakes.

Ross Trooien, 26, of White Bear Lake, Minnesota, and Gordon Mammel, 25, of Minneapolis, called and told park workers they were disoriented but near cabins, Skaggs said.

Officials told the two to go to the cabins and wait, figuring they were either at the shuttered American Alpine Club Climbers’ Ranch or seasonal employee park housing nearby. A worker was grooming a ski trail in the area and took his machine into the Climbers’ Ranch where he found the two, Skaggs said.

They got out at 7:30 p.m.

post #277 of 293

Let's see, take OFF a layer to keep warm????  th_dunno-1[1].gif

post #278 of 293

@tog:

 

I really like your snowboards + iPhone story. But for a different reason. Why in the world would he have not downloaded the map of the area before he went out of bounds, and why in the world would he have not used the builtin GPS to figure out on his own how to get back ? I mean there you have a real usable toy that is good for more than just listening to music, and the he is not using it ...

 

Even without the gizmos, if you get lot, why not simply backtrack your route uphill ;-)

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@tog:

 

I really like your snowboards + iPhone story. But for a different reason. Why in the world would he have not downloaded the map of the area before he went out of bounds, and why in the world would he have not used the builtin GPS to figure out on his own how to get back ? I mean there you have a real usable toy that is good for more than just listening to music, and the he is not using it ...

 

Even without the gizmos, if you get lot, why not simply backtrack your route uphill ;-)


The story states ipod, not iphone...so he's got none of the maps/GPS stuff...just music.  There's so many things he did wrong I don't even know where to begin.  For starters...always follow someone if you don't know where you're going.  Taking off clothing to burn for warmth is a new level of stupid I've never heard of before.

post #280 of 293

Excellent point. The answer from reading the story would be that he was unprepared in the gizmo department too. It sounds like it was an ipod and not an iphone with the gps etc.  It does bring up the question , are these apps self sufficient or do they need cell reception to run? A map with gps can run by itself as long as you've got satellite signal?

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I was more illuding to the mindset that some folks have. 

 

You were doing a magic trick?

 

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@tog:

 

I really like your snowboards + iPhone story. But for a different reason. Why in the world would he have not downloaded the map of the area before he went out of bounds, and why in the world would he have not used the builtin GPS to figure out on his own how to get back ? I mean there you have a real usable toy that is good for more than just listening to music, and the he is not using it ...

 

Even without the gizmos, if you get lot, why not simply backtrack your route uphill ;-)


The story states ipod, not iphone...so he's got none of the maps/GPS stuff...just music.  There's so many things he did wrong I don't even know where to begin.  For starters...always follow someone if you don't know where you're going.  Taking off clothing to burn for warmth is a new level of stupid I've never heard of before.



 My bad. The commentary above said "iPhone" ;-) And yes, I agree with the level of stupidity.  

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I was more illuding to the mindset that some folks have. 

 

You were doing a magic trick?

 


Are you alluding that he's an illusionist?

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Excellent point. The answer from reading the story would be that he was unprepared in the gizmo department too. It sounds like it was an ipod and not an iphone with the gps etc.  It does bring up the question , are these apps self sufficient or do they need cell reception to run? A map with gps can run by itself as long as you've got satellite signal?


There are a few Android apps that I know'have-tried that have offline maps (you download them beforehand onto your sdcard) and then you can go without cell reception, just using GPS. TopoMaps/GaiaGPS is such an application. However I found those type of applications a massive power drain. But as a backup if you do get lost, probably priceless.


 

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Excellent point. The answer from reading the story would be that he was unprepared in the gizmo department too. It sounds like it was an ipod and not an iphone with the gps etc.  It does bring up the question , are these apps self sufficient or do they need cell reception to run? A map with gps can run by itself as long as you've got satellite signal?



GPS does not require cell reception, however most phones do require cell reception to get map data.  If you have the area map cached/downloaded, then it would work fine.  Also, certain GPS apps allow you to set a rendezvous point or return point.  Basically, it will always point you in the direction of that point so you can find your way back.

post #286 of 293

So the app would have access to temp data too no? At what point will it tell you to stop, take off your shirt and burn it? Then send out a tweet about it.

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So the app would have access to temp data too no? At what point will it tell you to stop, take off your shirt and burn it? Then send out a tweet about it.


That would be a great feature.  I think I'm gonna write an iphone app for that.

post #288 of 293

Well if you're going to write an app, let's cover a few more bases.

Probably should include a facebook shout out. That way your "friends" know you're freezing to death.

Integrate google maps perhaps? Try to make it so you can take a picture and it shows you which way to go? - A big arrow on the phone, since by this time the user is hypothermic and dumb.

I really think it should have some reference for smoke signals. Incorporating some 19th century Army Signal Corps smoke signal means of communication? That would truly make burning the shirt worthwhile.

Ok, you get started, I'll try to think up more stuff. - How about a reference on "How to Keep Warm?" - spoken by a sexy female voice to get their attention.

post #289 of 293

I could just see it now...in a sexy english accent:

"In 300 meters, remove T-shirt and throw in fire"   *takes off pants instead*

"Re-calculating..."

"Sit still for 20 minutes"

"You have reached your destination........Hypothermia"

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I was more illuding to the mindset that some folks have. 

 

You were doing a magic trick?

 


Are you alluding that he's an illusionist?



illude |iˈloōd|verb [ trans. ] poetic/literary  trick; delude : he had allowed his imagination to illude him.  

 

Interesting word, but not of or pertaining to magic, I wouldn't think.

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I was more illuding to the mindset that some folks have. 

 

You were doing a magic trick?

 


Are you alluding that he's an illusionist?



illude |iˈloōd|verb [ trans. ] poetic/literary  trick; delude : he had allowed his imagination to illude him.  

 

Interesting word, but not of or pertaining to magic, I wouldn't think.


Well, not "real" magic, which is superstition.  It pertains to those who do magic for entertainment, as in a circus.  They delude the audience into seeing something that is not.  They are "illusionists."

 

From my handy OS 10 dictionary-

 

illusionist:

noun

a person who performs tricks that deceive the eye; a magician.

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Oh, right, yes.  Sense from the sensible -- I stand redirected.

post #293 of 293

There is no techno in europe?

 

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