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post #31 of 45
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WhosThatGirl:
I hope ski manufacturers are li$tening.[/QB]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They have...and they came up with shaped, mid-fats and fats. They were going out of business with straights.
post #32 of 45
Last season I bought a pair of Fischer RC4 WC SC slalom skis with a 102-63-90 sidecut at 176cm - which I bought use in western conditions. I have skied on them for five consecutive days now this season and compared them with a modestly shaped 91-63-91 200cm side cut ski which I skied on for two consecutive days. What a difference! The shorter skis are definately superior on and off the groomed, in moderate bumps, in slush and hardpack conditions.

That said I still have a special fondness for the clean crisp turns that my RC4 WC SL skis make at 203cm with their 85-63-76 sidecut. Maybe its just nosalgia...The last iteration of that great ski can now be bought over the internet for $49.95 and elsewhere probably even cheaper.

If you are into moguls picking up a few pairs of these bargain basement priced straight skis might still be a bargain. And if you bend them so what? You are only out $25-50.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ January 25, 2002 02:28 PM: Message edited 2 times, by Lostboy ]</font>
post #33 of 45
Thread Starter 
Actually **$19.99**! Brand new and unmounted.

Probably crap, but I can't be choosy anymore. I grabbed EVERY pair of 185's.

5 pairs!

Anyone who can ski a longer ski has a much better selection. Saw some nice Dynastars, but they were all 190++.
post #34 of 45
It really does not take long to adjust to new skis it wook me all of two runs to adjust from long straight Kastle GS boards to my Dynastar 4x4 Bigs which are wider at the waist then my Kastles we at the tips. I thought the Kastles were the greatest skis ever when I first bought them (maybe 5 years ago) now as far as I am concerned they are junk now even though bindings are good. I'm trading them to a friend for two Vail lift tickets (he needs bindings for a pair of skis). To each their own but I would give new skis a chance.
post #35 of 45
This is just a comment on the old school/new school debate. Much of what I see is all about bashing the old style and way of skiing what was then available. In all honesty, old school people ski just as well as new school. Watching someone on 207 straights ripping down the steeps is just as "eye catching" as watching the new slalomers on 155's. Granted there are obvious advantages to the new technology but newer is not always better. I just recently switched to shaped skis and have adapted well but truth be told there are certain conditions that I would have handled better on my old straights, also there are certain conditions that my straights couldn't hold a candle to. In the end this isn't a debate that will live-on for very long since straights are no longer available. Watching modern bumpers however brings back memories of old combining style and power with legs glued together ! Bumpers by the way are still on old-style straights so they couldn't have been all that bad ! Could Johnny Mosley have done the 720 dinner role on 203 Volkl P9's......Of course he could ! Skill is skill, whatever the shape of the ski.
post #36 of 45
I had in interesting lift ride a few weeks ago with a woman on very narrow and straight Volants. I had to look twice cuz I have never seen a Volant that skinny.

She proudly boasted how she bought two pair for $101. The first pair was $100. The second pair she got for $1.

I advised her to put that $1 ski into a museum as it is a rare thing.

She was all about how she hates shaped skis etc. Then she says, but they stink in deep snow and I want a deep snow ski, one that has no sidecut.

Well, good luck lady.
post #37 of 45
Thats the wonderful thing about freedom, you can refuse to use an internal combustion engine, you can stick with a B&W TV, you can seek out only flight on prop driven aircraft instead of jets, you can refuse to use an OS with a GUI, and you can stick with older ski technology. I could come up with arguments for why any one of the above choices would be "smarter", we can rationalize anything we want. And heck, as long as folks are out there having fun, who cares what skis they are on? Its the self-rightous ones that are the only drag.
post #38 of 45
When you have lessons on shaped skis you get to go down a hill followed by someone yelling 'get your legs apart' at top volume!
post #39 of 45
Legs apart - legs close together Who cares!!
In the the words of that famous, long-forgotten ski bum Scooter Lacouter (Sp?) - JUST TURN THE MUTHAHS!!!

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ February 15, 2002 11:01 AM: Message edited 1 time, by Buddha ]</font>
post #40 of 45
Everyone skis old school. My dismay is that the new shapped equipment is requiring 2 to 3 generations of skiers to radically change their technique.

that's not only overgeneral, but patently false.

now, if you said "2 to 3 generations of skiers who use a jet/mambo turn style of skiing" I would agree with you.

Skiers from the 60s who were racers don't have much problem adapting to modern skis.

Skiers from the 60s who learned poor technique that focused on "style" and "looking good" naturally will have a hard time when they try to jet their turns, or do the mambo down a run, on modern skis.

the essence of good skiing hasn't changed in 3 generations. what's changed is the fact that skiers now can't use those bogus styles of turning by heel-thrust. and that's a good thing.
post #41 of 45
Marker still makes totally unlifted bindings. Even if a shop does not carry them, they should be able to order them.
post #42 of 45
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WhosThatGirl:
Well, it's all a mute point now. Thanks to this wonderful forum, I got a lead on a great cache of straight skis, and now have a 185 cm straight ski stockpile in my closet. So I am very **happy** and my little dilemma is solved. So carry on. My equipment works for me which is how it should be. Now, if I could only find a decent binding WITHOUT a lifter plate... [img]smile.gif[/img]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, what a poor decision. You do realize that leather boots, cable bindings and edgeless, long wooden skis worked for guys in the 30's. But that did not stop anyone from adjusting and improving with new technology. You should take a long look at your skills and question your decision. This is not about bashing old school, it is about embracing technology and learning new tricks.
post #43 of 45
Hey TomB, may I disagree with you? For most people IMO skiing is about having fun, getting outside or just being with friends. And as I shell out big $$$, endlessly fiddle with my boots, alignment etc, and ponder the finer points of this ski vs. that ski I'm beginning to think these people are on to soemthing!!! but the truth is I like following all the tech stuff; it's fun for me and the actual skiing ain't bad either...
post #44 of 45
Thread Starter 
Well, it's all a mute point now. Thanks to this wonderful forum, I got a lead on a great cache of straight skis, and now have a 185 cm straight ski stockpile in my closet. So I am very **happy** and my little dilemma is solved.

So carry on. My equipment works for me which is how it should be.

Now, if I could only find a decent binding WITHOUT a lifter plate... [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #45 of 45
Its all about fun - folks should use whatever they want. If they prefer flying Cessna 172's thats cool, just never pick a fight with somebody flying an F-16!
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