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Scott Ski Boots: Superlights, Superhots

post #1 of 63
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I looked around on the site and found some info but no dedicated thread.

So......... Love them or hate them.................  I've been noticing they do have a following on Ebay...........


I know a little about the boots, but could use some details from the people that owned them and sold them.


         First the box that they came in new.




Edited by skimalibu - 11/21/10 at 10:30pm
post #2 of 63

If you’ve got time to wade through my wee tale of Scott boots, here’s a view from the other side of the pond.  I was at University in the mid/late 70s and was part of the ski team – a solid team member I guess, but never a star.  In Scotland, the ‘aspirational’ gear was all European, so we were all skiing Atomics, Rossignols, Fischers, Kneissels, Blizzards etc, and the Omeglass had just come out and the Uni bought us a new pair each J.  Boots-wise, most of the guys I skied with were on Caber Alfas, a nice boot with a well-made flo-fit leather liner.


When I left Uni in ’79 I wasn’t going to continue ski-racing solo – I wasn’t good enough, but I did want something ‘special’.  I’d been buying a lot of US ski-comics which were full of cool folks pulling of stunning moves wearing Scott boots, The Ski and Spademan bindings.  Given I could muster a helicopter (to the left only, and only off small ramps), I lusted after this gear.  And as if by some divine plan, the local ski shop got in a couple of pairs of Scott boots, and advertised they could get hold of The Ski.


I never warmed to the Spademans, so in ’79 spent one of my early pay checks – yup, a whole month’s salary - on a pair of Scott Superhot boots, The Ski Magic and Look 77Rs.  The Scotts were hugely expensive here, twice the price of anything else in the shop, and looking at what you got for the money it wasn’t a great deal.  By any measure, these things were a rip-off (in the UK at least), and I only ever saw one other pair (a pair of Superlights) on Scottish snow.  But I so wanted to be the US-geared cool dude I parted with the cash; I would have bought these things irrespective of how they felt or how much they cost.


The first impression in the store was how light they were.  But the weird thing is they were also stiff.  For as long as I skied them it was always strange to be in a light stiff boot – you felt the stiffness and expected them to be ‘normally’ heavy, or you felt the weight and expected them to be soft, but they weren’t (or at least could be set up that way).


OK, on to the boot itself.  The ‘foot’ part always reminded me of a clog.  It was solid plastic with no give whatsoever.  The footbed was plastic with optionally some shims under the heel to raise it, and it was covered in a thin sheet of expanded polyurethane (I think that’s what it is).  This is the fairly solid shiny-surfaced plastic foam, not the blown stuff ceiling-tiles are made of.  This was the same material the ‘liner’ was made of.  The ‘liner’ was only in the foot/clog section and was a bit of foam shaped like a slipper without the sole.  There was no fabric cover – just a single layer of hard foam.


The concept was pretty sound – with your foot solidly encased there was no way you could add pressure points with over tightening.  The trick was then to make sure that the foot/clog bit exactly matched the shape of your foot, and therein lay the first challenge.  But the good news was that it was a DIY job.  You could give more space to your foot by taking the liner out and shaving off some material from the outside with a razor blade.  By chance or planning, the grey colour of the liner changed as you cut through it, so the outside of the liner kind of looked like the contour lines on a map as you shaved bits away.


Basically you went skiing and it hurt like hell.  At the end of the day you’d take the liner out and you could see where it was getting squashed-down.  You than shaved some material off the outside, and skied some more and repeated.  It took some time but you did end up, eventually, with a pain free foot but that was an exact fit in the boot with no give whatsoever.


Then on to the cuff section.   There was no ‘liner’ there either, just a layer of neoprene [wetsuit] foam glued directly onto the shell.  This never needed any adjustment, for me at least.  But a neat trick of the fitting was that as the cuff clamped around your foot it pushed two tabs in the ‘foot’ liner over your heel – these things had great heel hold-down!  The tongue was rubber and kind of ‘floated’ attached to the foot.


There was absolutely no flex in the shell itself – the flex came from the tongue moving forward within the cuff.  The ‘clip’ on the front of the cuff didn’t therefore make much difference to the tightness of the boot (remember, your foot is locked in a solid shell), but closed up the front of the shell making it harder for the tongue to push through and so stiffened the boot.  The Superhot also had a power-strap affair that could be moved up and down the boot to further stiffen it.


The cuff locked into the foot section with tabs engaging with one of a series of slots so you could choose the amount of forward lean (every time you clipped-up the boot).  The bolts between the cuff and ‘shoe’ were also eccentric to allow for canting.


What you ended up with was a real-well-fitting boot, very light, with adjustable flex, adjustable ‘stop’ on how far it flexes, adjustable forward lean, and canting.  And at the time it came out it looked cool too!  I found the boot skied really well – I never had any issues with its performance although I never pushed it as hard as the cool dudes I saw in the US ski comics.


Downsides?  It was cold as hell, and there was nothing you could do about it.  You fitted-up the boot with thin socks, and as there was no adjustment you couldn’t ever have anything between your foot and the cold/snow other than a thin sock, 1-2mm of hard foam and a hard plastic shell.  Fine in late seasons or sunny days, but on cold days I think I was only hours-away from frostbite!


And although the foot section was solid and thus watertight, there was no seal between the gap for the tongue and the foot.  If you were in temperatures/snow conditions where snow on your boot wouldn’t melt then you were dry.  If the snow on your boot would melt (e.g.late season slush) then you got wet feet.


I’d skied on the Scotts and The Ski for a number of seasons until a trip to Italy when I had a hard landing on what I thought was soft snow.  In fact it covered some rocks and I punched a hole on the bottom of The Ski, tearing out an edge and exposing the core.  My The Ski are now nailed up on my garage wall as souvenirs.  But I had to get a replacement pair of boards and there wasn’t much choice in the resort [Bormio], so I ended up with a pair of Atomic Arc Carbon Bionics in 203.


The mix of a Scott boot and a 203 Atomic might seem strange, but the boot drove them just fine and I put in another season with this strange mix, for by now I’d given up any thoughts of freestyle and bumps and was just in to faaaast cruising.


Eventually I got a crack on the cuff of one boot; in truth not enough to stop skiing on them, but the weird looks I was by now getting made a change inevitable.  I went into the ski shop with my Scotts and with one on one foot tried everything else on in the store to get something that felt the same on the other foot in terms of stiffness/flex/lean.  Surprisingly, with the way I had the Scotts set up, a Lange ZR (in Orange of course) felt almost identical, except for being loads heavier and just feeling generally more clumsy.  But that was my switch to Langes, and brand loyalty for over 20 years before a switch to Salamon, but that’s a different story.


As to Scott brand loyalty, I also bought a set of Scott poles at about the same time in 1979 or so, and I’m still using them.  And maybe 3 years ago when I was looking for an all-mountain do-anything flat ski to replace my Volkl AC4s I bought a pair of Scott Aztec Pros, and they have been quite superb; astonishingly capable in all conditions.  And I’ve just bought a pair of Scott Missions ready to roll for this season.


I loved the Superhots so much I couldn’t face throwing them out or selling them, so they’re back in their original box in the attic. I remember they came with a little leaflet with a cartoon skier explaining the benefits – I recall on one section they said they were warm!  I’m not sure if I’ve still got the leaflet and I haven’t opened the box since I put them away, but one day I’ll maybe dig them out and try them on again.

post #3 of 63

Great story, thank you. 

post #4 of 63
Thread Starter 

Yeah great story!


Owner's manual cover and what was in the box. These are the first series of boots easily identified by their two piece bonded lower.





Edited by skimalibu - 11/22/10 at 3:20pm
post #5 of 63
Thread Starter 

I requested and received information from Scott USA back in September 1977


There were two different styles of boot offered. The Superlights and the Superhots.

The only difference between the two was the Superhots had an additional buckle on a taller upper cuff.

[ Superhots are the red pair of boots pictured below in the Scott sales brochure]


Scott boots were made in

 Small    - size  5-8

 Medium - size  8 1/2 - 10 1/2

 Large    -  size 11 - 13 1/2


 The thickness of the lower liner determines the actual size of the boot. The liner is made of layered closed cell foam.

 There were four different thickness liners available for each size of lower boot shell according to the owner's manual.

 Upper shells were available in two sizes (A) for average size calves, (B) for larger size calves. (location shown in post #9 in this thread)



Forward lean adjustments were done by the slot plate below buckle

 Top slot 17 degrees

 2nd slot 19  "

 3rd slot 21  "

 4th slot 23 "




Edited by skimalibu - 1/8/11 at 10:09am
post #6 of 63

A friend who went on the pro bump circuit for a while in (I think) the late 70s had several sets of Scotts--we called him "Whiteshoes"--that he had a love/hate relationship with because he kept breaking them.  They'd send him a new set and he'd break them in short order.  I think he broke all sorts of parts on the boots.  Split the cuff material, split the solid last section on one, I recall, kept breaking the latching parts, etc. I remember him saying once he was skiing on boots with parts from four or five individual sets.

post #7 of 63

 Owned Scott boots back in the day.  I would best describe them as;  "a pair of stiff Intuition Liners wrapped with a thin outerlay of plastic."  If you got the right size they were tolerably comfortable and worked OK, never good, never bad but just OK.

post #8 of 63
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!B6ZJISgCGk~$(KGrHqV,!hsEyd!pp40RBM)K+2K2-!~~_12.jpgThese are the second series of Scott Boots. Note these have a one piece lower that have Scott on the bottom sole. 


The lowers on the second series were made of Reaction Injected Molded (RIM) Urethane. And the uppers were made of the, then new material, GE Lexan.


Below: The 1st series (blue) is on the right. The 2nd series (black) is on the left. ( 2nd series boots were introduced by SCOTT for the 1978-79 season) There was an ad campaign back then on this 2nd series boot which boasted a two year guarantee. Notice the shorter latch handle on the blue 1st series boot.




Edited by skimalibu - 10/3/11 at 9:58am
post #9 of 63
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You can see on the back of the first series on the right the size (A) [above rivit] upper for skiers with regular sized calves. Notice the (B) on the boots in the lower photo, for large calves.




Edited by skimalibu - 12/19/11 at 7:56pm
post #10 of 63

scott poster 005.JPG

post #11 of 63
Thread Starter 

I've never seen that poster before............ Why wasn't Lady Liberty skiing?............. Freaking Communists.  lol

post #12 of 63

hello. bought my scotts in early 70's. still have them. at the time they were the lightest boot on the market. and i had just purchased the nordica banana. so no comparison. not the most comfortable but still the lightest. very expensive. mid 200's and i will not say how was i able to afford them. but i bought the first pair in that store in lethbridge. pretty much gave up skiing in the 80's. but i still have the scotts and 2 pair of the bananas. because they were yellow. kind of wandering what to do with them now. that is my story. 

post #13 of 63

yes. the wanderfully tolerable scott. the most amazing ski boot at the time. the lightness. that is about it. mine are white/ black. series A. did not know there was a series. just checked. and the shorter style not the high back. have not been used since 1980. are there many people that still have these?

post #14 of 63

hi , I'm writing from france and looking to purchase SCOTT ski boots aswel as Hansson....for historic museum in Val d'Isère....can someone offer to sell these items....pimiolaki@hotmail.fr

post #15 of 63

I have some but want to hang on to them. On ebay Scotts show up every so often -- Hansons show up too but not as often.


Many folks here at Epic Ski collect retro/vintage ski equipment (check out More Retro Memories)


My Scotts (the first pair of ski boots I ever purchased myself).



post #16 of 63

I had the superlights in the early 70s. I raced SL, GS and DH (yes DH) with them. I don't recall feeling challenged by their performance, but when I was offered a pair of custom (for Tyler Palmer) Langes from TP, I took them and ran. He also contributed a pair of VR17 DHs to my cause.


Cranmore GS - scott boots, dynamic, look, allsop.jpg

post #17 of 63
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Thought I woould add some more info and pictures to this thread. And hopefully give it a bump in the process.


You can see in the pic below how Scott just laminated sheets of closed cell foam to size the lower shells. I took a pen to highlight the separate layers in this lower liner.






There were heel shims, ankle pads and snow dams included in the warranty packet. I bought the blue  first series (on the right) "used". There is no wear on their soles. I can't see how they were ever walked in off carpet or skied.



Edited by skimalibu - 9/25/11 at 7:05pm
post #18 of 63
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You can see the change in the second series boot so there wasn't a need for the snow dams. I just taped one snow dam in place to show where they would have been fit.



Edited by skimalibu - 10/28/11 at 9:19am
post #19 of 63
Thread Starter 

Size locations on first series boots. On the black sole's side.  This is a large size 13-11.




The second series is indicated by a letter on the side of the sole. Shown here as an (L).


Edited by skimalibu - 10/28/11 at 9:13am
post #20 of 63
Thread Starter 

Components of the first series boot on top............... Second series on the bottom.



Edited by skimalibu - 10/28/11 at 9:16am
post #21 of 63
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An early pair of Superhots? !CBK3CwwBmk~$(KGrHqQOKjwEzm9B1-qIBNGjZQi6v!~~_12.JPG

post #22 of 63

I have a Pair of these boots and i was wanting to sell them..they are in good condition and are the 2nd series 10-10 1/2 medium and they have the taller back on them. Does anybody have any clue of what they would be worth? Any help would be greatly appreciated ! thank you!!

post #23 of 63

Yeah...offer you $100.
John (479-270-1111)

post #24 of 63

DSC04108.JPG Posted this on the "More retro memories" thread earlier.  Got a lot of history with these and The Ski, Hexcel, Molnar in the 70's.  Also broke a lot of all of them over the years!  Enjoy.

post #25 of 63
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Scott had socks made for use with their boots.( The AC/DC thermal socks)

The black sock lowers are thin and the tops blue, are thick.

Edited by skimalibu - 2/20/14 at 12:06am
post #26 of 63
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Hey I found it. One of the members on the site also has quite a collection.

post #27 of 63

Wow. That picture looks like my old warehouse 30 years ago. We were the importers into the UK of Scott, Olin, Hexel, The Ski, Spadman & Burt Bindings (any spare cables out there?).

Those were the days !

I think Scott is the only one left in business.

Anyone know where Richard Dent of Olin is nowadays 


post #28 of 63

Very surprised to find this site.  Takes me back to the 70's ski era when the sport was not nearly as crazy as it has become.  I bought my pair of Scott Superlites Supercomps (high back as I think they were called) from Sport Chalet in La Canada Calif in the early 70's.  It was thought of as more of a gimmick type new ski boot style.  As with the rest of the Scott boot owners, I quickly found that you cannot ski on these boots for very long.  You bought a basic shell of three sizes and they would heat up the shell to punch it out till it fit. My attraction for these boots was not the look or even the lightness, rather the low positioning of your foot on the ski.  It gave you remarkable control over the norm in ski boots that elevate your foot an inch or more above the ski. But that darn ol downfall of being very difficult to fit for comfort was it's death.  I read here where someone described the fit as "tolerable" and that is exactly how you would define the fit and feel.  Great idea that didn't catch on but paved the way for lighter materials in boots to come.  I last wore these boots in the late 80's before moving on to Lange Phantoms, awesome boots. Those too should be sent to the Smithsonian. 

My boots (black and orange) are in very good condition except for the dumb luck of just having to try them on recently for whatever reason.  In doing so, I snapped the high back strap on one of them.  My guess is that being close to 40 years old, the plastic has become brittle. I was thinking of donating them to Sport Chalet to be put in that window display of older equipment, but they have since remodeled and do not have that archived display anymore.  If anyone is interested in them for whatever reason or value, get a hold of me at Me3pop@hotmail.com.   


post #29 of 63

Pim Geldof..

I just happened onto this site and read this note of yours looking for a pair of Scott boots.  You can read my message on this page somewhere.  I have a pair of the high back Scott boots bought back in the early 70's.  You mentioned you wanted a pair for a historic museum.  They're yours if you want.  Just let me know where to send them.  It's kind of neat thinking these boots I have will be on display in France.  I'm in California.



post #30 of 63



Your Scotts are of the same age mine are, so be careful trying them back on.  I just had to try mine on again for whatever reason I'll never know, and i snapped a strap on the high backs.  Seems 40 years made that strap a bit brittle.  I won't try mine on again as possibly it might crack the boot shell. 

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