I am curious as to what everyone sees as their everyday type of ski, and why that is so. Is it skiing style, ability, aggressiveness, local conditions, time on the snow, skiing partners, preferred snow type? What makes you choose Ski Type A over Ski Type B? I am not as interested in specifics (like Volkl Mantra vs. Kastle MX98) moreso than I am interested in the genre of ski you choose for your typical everyday ride (race ski, front side carver, front-side bumps and trees, all-mountain carver, all-mountain soft snow, wide soft ski, frontside rocker, backcountry rocker, backcountry twin, park and pipe., water ski et cetera).
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Your Go-To type of ski? And why?
These days, my prefered type of ski most days is GS race ski. I ski mostly on hardpack and ice, and I like to ski fast, but don't get to ski extremely fast due to the terrain I can get to. I also like to impress myself with how hard I can crank out some turns; high g forces feel good. Getting a work out gives me a high. Pushing the control envolope is exciting.
I spent a a few years concentrating on a shorter radius ski as it was fun to make small tight turns on small hills, but bigger radius skis just feel better making turns at speed. A very good type of ski for improving you technique.
I like race skis because they have more grip and don't complain when you ski them fast.
category: 12-13 meter, mid-60s underfoot, high end recreational carving skis (i.e. modestly detuned slalom skis)
why: confidence-inspiring; responsive; edge hold on scraped-off and ice; turn on a dime; carve or brush equally well; they ski well in bumps, groomers, and powder up to boot-deep (plenty of float with their fat tips and tails for even a heavier fella like me.) Also tops for skill development.
why not sl or gs: too tempting to do things one oughtn't on public slopes, especially with small children popping on and off the slopes from the trees and other out-of-view places.
I have 39 years of skiing experience starting when I was 17 (do the math ) I consider myself a level 8/9 hardcore skier for my age and ski fast and hard. My ski type of choice has changed a bit over the years ( 70's -90's) from slalom race skis to bump skis, back to slalom race skis until high performance non race skis first appeared in the mid 90's or so. Before then unless you were on a specialty bump ski, if you wanted performance you skied a race ski (consumer race, not race stock).
Around the time these new high performance all mountain skis appeared I started exploring the outer reaches of the resort and challenging myself in trees, steeps and chutes and found my "go to ski". It is usually one step down from the top model in the high performance all mountain category which usally means it is softer and more forgiving than the top model while still giving me more performance than I can realistically use. My first of this breed was the Saloman Super Force Pro Link in a power 9 (202cm) the last of my "straight" skis.
FWIW my current Go To Ski is a Volkl AC30 170 cm.
For the 30-40 days a year I put in at my home mountain (Killington, VT) I look for a ski with good hard snow grip and versatility. Want something that will be fun on the typically hard groomed surfaces, works in the bumps, and can handle a little bit of powder when that falls. Since I am older (64) I ski a bit more conservatively than I did 20 years ago so high speed performance is not a priority. I prefer a quicker turning ski thats more on the light and snappy side. I know you said no models, but my current skis are Fisher Progressor 8+. Meets my criteria pretty well.
it is about the mountain, Squaw Valley, lots of difficult terrain, huge bowls and faces to narrow chutes and lots of trees.
the snow, mostly fresh, it snows often.
and my taste is for fast skiing, big turns, hate little choppy cut turns on a giant snowfield, you know what I'm sayin'.
so, go to ski, a ski mid nineties waisted, stiff, damp, heavy, length 18 cm longer than I, well tuned (except for rock days) 26+ TR
lack of snow, skiing chalk and hardpack for weeks, change it up to a carver, 9 cm longer than I, waisted 75, stiff, heavy, damp, but good rebound, 18+ TR
edit: if I had known that everyone was going to claim they ski at warp speed all the time, I never would have used the word "fast" ha, ha
My Go-To Ski very much based to my location (Tahoe) and what I like to ski (off-piste away from everyone else).
I pretty much like any non-hard snow. So, I look for a ski that increases the types of crud that are fun to ski, with decent hard snow edge hold and decent powder performance. Being stable in rough snow at reasonable speed is also important since I get to ski some open terrain at Alpine Meadows. The ski needs to be able to be forced in to tighter turns for tree ski. The ski also needs to be well behaved skidding and slipping - again for trees and tighter places. (Cannot be a ski that only wants to ski its side cut.)
For groomers, as long as the ski can hold an edge on hard snow and arc longer turns that is good enough (this is the compromise part).
Fortunately, last year I started using a ski means the core criteria plus very good at deep powder (b/c it big - 196cm big). The ski is standard camber under foot with rocker in the tip and a little bit in the tail. It is not too heavy so a jump turn is a reason idea in a pinch.
Currently, a PMGear 196 Lhasa Pow has become my every day go to ski. So, a wide standard camber with rocker ski.
On several days towards the end of last year, I was on other skis and thinking I should have just taken out the Lhasa Pows.
Lhasa are fun enough at moderate speeds on the groomer. I don't seek out moguls and moguls are very optional Alpine Meadows. I find the Lhasa fine for occasional moguls (but I grew up skiing longer stiffer skis in moguls...)
I'm pretty stoke to find a good deep snow ski that works for everything else I like to do.
Only when I really want to crank up the speed on hard snow (use my Stockli SS pros) or skiing all day with the kids, do I think about take out another pair of ski.
edit: For what got replaced or did not work out as well.
The Lhasa Pow replaces the a 191 Mantra/Sanouk setup. Previously those 2 skis covered 90% of my skiing. If traveling I would take those 2 skis.
A 190 Katana with zero camber used in 08/09 almost replaced the 191 Mantra/Sanouk setup. But, I found I really like having some camber underfoot. Better rebound and I don't feel like a have a dead or low spot underfoot during run outs back to the lift.
188 Stockli SS Pro - really fun but is just is not wide enough from all the manky deep warm snow I tend to ski. If Tahoe is unusually cold and dry for a period (like in 08/09), the SS Pro makes a good daily ski for me. But, not for typical warmer Tahoe type conditions.
Edited by StormDay - 11/19/10 at 6:43pm
It all depends on WHERE I'm 'everyday'. The resort & anticipated snow condition for the time period I'm there generally dictates what my everyday (primary) ski is.
Home is NYC. Do about 30+ day @ Kmart. For VT, either a SL race board or a wide carver (D2 VF82) for high speed fun & edge hold.
When I travel west (50+ days) I carry 2 set skis - 1 set of powder board and a 'everyday' ski for harder snow conditions.
Everyday ski for places like summit county would be a wide carver. To max out on the excitement factor and longer legs on the ski.
Everyday ski for places like SLC, Squaw & Whistler would be mid 90 powder board (Mantra) for the soft snow & steeper terrain.
For resorts where the runs are really steep, tighter & firmer bumps, tight trees (Taos) everyday ski woould be a pair of mid 80 all mountain board (Salomon Lords) - forgiveness. The mountain provides enough excitement.
It appears my everyday ski depends on where I'm going to be everyday - for a while anyway.
Definietly ski for conditions. If there's a foot of snow on the ground, I'm taking my Volants. If it's a small hill or I'm skiing with friends and/or family I'm taking the SCs. If it's just me and the hardpack it's the P50s. Once in a while it's the SGs, but that once in a while won't be with friends and familiy, and it won't be on a powder day, and it won't be to a small hill.
My go to ski, first and foremost, is twin tipped. I go backwards often as much as forwards,so that is a necessity. Ideally, it's got a waist in the Mid 80's, but low 80's to low 90's could work. I think that's a perfect blend of carving, quickness and flotation. I still am not fully sold on early rise and reverse camber on hardpack snow, so I still prefer traditional camber, but as such, I also prefer closer to a traditional mount. I like the extra tip and shorter tails in deep snow, as opposed to rockers and such.
90ish waist, 180 length, medium flex, no twin tip, pretty turny radius, light.
3000' vert. mountain, lots of hiking, various conditions, exposures & terrain.
I have 6 other pair that I also go to... depending.
It really depends on they conditions and with who and where I ski.
Weekend with new snow.... I know the untracked will get skied out pretty quickly so Savage or Coax
Midweek with new snow..... Untracked will remain the whole day so Bent Chettlers or Blogs.
Softish snow, with hard conditions lower mountain...Crimson
Hard snow....GS or SL
Hard snow clear visibilty... DH or SG for a few runs until it gets busy, then switch to GS
I think it depends on your favorite type of skiing. If your favorite is fast groomers then go with the GS ski. If your favorite is backcountry go with the fatter, rockered powder ski. For me I am 23 and I like the trees so I will usually go with the Volkl Bridge 2011 with the rocker then reserve my salamon suspects for when I go with my friends to the park. I think people prefer the type of ski that best fits their favorite type of skiing.
It all comes down to the way I love to ski and type of snow and terrain I love and have to ski.
I love soft snow, ideally lots of it, deep powder on moderately steep wide open slopes, some sparse trees with deep snow. It is not always like that so I have to ski tracked out, crud, windblown etc. etc. That's why my ski of choice is the 186 Lhasa Pow - 112 underfoot, pintail, moderate tip rocker. I like it because it floats and isn't hooky, more slarvy\slashy. I don't really see myself using narrower skis with deeper sidecut. When it gets so icy it is obnoxious to ski the Lhasa's I prefer not to ski. Anyway I can't ski everyday.
Has been my Head SS's, set at 1/3. NE, 80% of the time man made or a bit of fresh that gets scrapped and cut up by 10 am, later in the day moderate bumps, light to moderate crud with ice underneath. Short radius, quickness edge to edge, and dampness are perfect. Obviously, if there's more on top or I want some soft in the trees, different ski...
But they're just wore out after about 200 days of use and not sure I'd like the new ones as well. So the search begins again. Leaning toward Kastle, Blizzard, or Dynastar carvers.
I ski in the East -- places like KTon, OKemo, Bristol, HV. I basically go with a ski that makes the best sense for the kind of skiing I do--skiing inbounds in the East at speeds that rarely, if ever are above 30 mph, except on hero snow early in the day. I enjoy narrow, maneuverable skis with mid-flex like the Progressor 8, RX8, Contact Lmtd. My widest ski is the original Head IM77 Chip that I have had for five seasons and it only gets time when there is any new snow that gets all chopped up. At this point, I have not wanted for more.
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