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SLC NWS says that slopes favored by SW or westerly flow are favored for upcoming event. I thought I recalled that PC is favored in SW flow as opposed to NW flow which favors Cottonwood Canyons. I know Cottonwoods  typically get more, but in light of forecast, anyone know answer. I know that we won't really know until it's in progress, but wondering what one would expect given forecast. 

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NWS forecast for this weekend for Alta (LCC) calls for anywhere from 20-35 inches by Monday morning. In contrast, the NWS forecast for PCMR calls for 10-21 inches over that same time period.

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Steve - As you indicated, these series of storms are entering the Wasatch from the SW as opposed to the normal W/NW storms.  That usually means that the mountains North and East of the GLS will fair as well as the Cottonwoods due to potential lake effect enhancement.

 

In this case, it looks like the latest forecast from NOAA does "slightly" favor the Ogden and Cache valley mountains over the Cottonwoods.  Here is the 7-Day forecast for Snowbasin @ 8600'

 


Today: Snow. High near 22. Wind chill values as low as -3. Southeast wind 11 to 20 mph becoming west. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 14 to 20 inches possible.

Tonight: Snow. Steady temperature around 21. Breezy, with a west southwest wind between 16 and 24 mph, with gusts as high as 38 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 5 to 9 inches possible.

Monday: Snow. Temperature falling to around 11 by noon. Wind chill values as low as -10. Breezy, with a west southwest wind between 18 and 23 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 9 to 13 inches possible.

Monday Night: Snow. Low around 8. Wind chill values as low as -10. Windy, with a west southwest wind between 28 and 30 mph, with gusts as high as 44 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible.

Tuesday: Snow. High near 13. Windy, with a west southwest wind between 24 and 32 mph, with gusts as high as 46 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 8 to 12 inches possible.

Tuesday Night: Snow. Low around -2. Blustery. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible.

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SLC NWS says that slopes favored by SW or westerly flow are favored for upcoming event. I thought I recalled that PC is favored in SW flow as opposed to NW flow which favors Cottonwood Canyons. I know Cottonwoods  typically get more, but in light of forecast, anyone know answer. I know that we won't really know until it's in progress, but wondering what one would expect given forecast. 


Yeah, this is one of those weird  CA/AZ to UT flows that will miss NM (sorry, Taos).  I'm sure the resorts would rather have a "wet" early snow to pack in the base, but this dump should be "dry" (what makes UT snow famous).  A good dump  before Thanksgiving is nice.  
 

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& it is coming down big time right now at 5300' in the Ogden Valley!

JF

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Thread Starter 

It turned out LCC ended up with least. At least according to snow reports. Looks like everyone doing well though. 

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anyone have snow totals (real ones) for Alta and PC? 

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It's a big storm. PCMR opened yesterday.  Canyons is opening Dec 10th!  The boys and girls have been skinning Deer Valley for the last couple weeks. We've had about 13 inches in the last twenty four and it's slated to continue through Wednesday.

I'm at 7200', which is a little higher than the PC resort bases . Snow totals at the higher elevations are always quite a bit more. They expect a storm total of 2-3 feet with a foot in Salt Lake.

 

 

The roads are off the charts trecherous because the first four inches were glop, but then it turned cold and we're knee deep in the lightest, driest powder imaginable. Here's a shot from the deck of the Crabshack. I was going to try LCC tomorrow, but it may not be passible with the roads forecast..The kids are thinking no way school tomorrow.

 

 

Snow2.jpg

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anyone have snow totals (real ones) for Alta and PC? 


When its this good does it really matter?

 

LL

 

I was in LCC yesterday and also drove past snowbasin to pick up my pass. Alta has a solid base on the ground. And it was dumping at snowbasin, but there was not much base. So I would consider that pretty strongly.  These storms are pretty windy. If by "real snow totals" you mean how much snow fell in a spot... well that won't mean much. Look to LCC and BCC where they have solid snowbase already with hopefully some fluff on the top.

 

If you want to compare I would check out the snowtel sites which are a state wide metric for comparing different areas.  http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/snotel/Utah/utah.html

post #10 of 20
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anyone have snow totals (real ones) for Alta and PC? 



looks like 20 inches

 

also looks like much more soon

 

 

Late Afternoon: Snow. Steady temperature around 12. Wind chill values as low as -3. Windy, with a west wind around 34 mph, with gusts as high as 48 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 9 to 13 inches possible. 

Tonight: Snow. Steady temperature around 9. Wind chill values as low as -10. Windy, with a west wind between 28 and 34 mph, with gusts as high as 48 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 5 to 9 inches possible. 

Monday: Snow. Some thunder is also possible. Steady temperature around 8. Wind chill values as low as -14. Windy, with a west southwest wind 16 to 19 mph increasing to between 33 and 36 mph. Winds could gust as high as 55 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 5 to 9 inches possible. 

Monday Night: Snow. Low around 8. Wind chill values as low as -15. Breezy, with a west southwest wind between 25 and 28 mph, with gusts as high as 41 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible. 

Tuesday: Snow. Some thunder is also possible. High near 15. Windy, with a west southwest wind between 28 and 34 mph, with gusts as high as 48 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 8 to 12 inches possible. 

Tuesday Night: Snow. Some thunder is also possible. Low around -9. Windy. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 10 to 14 inches possible. 

Wednesday: Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy and cold and windy, with a high near -2. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible. 

Wednesday Night: A slight chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy and windy, with a low around -8.

Thanksgiving Day: Partly sunny and windy, with a high near 19.

Thursday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 6. 

Friday: Partly sunny, with a high near 32. 

Friday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 12. 

Saturday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 34. 

Saturday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 11. 

Sunday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 25. 

post #11 of 20


I'm dieing here................  I am very very very jealous.....
 

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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

anyone have snow totals (real ones) for Alta and PC? 


When its this good does it really matter?

 

LL

 

I was in LCC yesterday and also drove past snowbasin to pick up my pass. Alta has a solid base on the ground. And it was dumping at snowbasin, but there was not much base. So I would consider that pretty strongly.  These storms are pretty windy. If by "real snow totals" you mean how much snow fell in a spot... well that won't mean much. Look to LCC and BCC where they have solid snowbase already with hopefully some fluff on the top.

 

If you want to compare I would check out the snowtel sites which are a state wide metric for comparing different areas.  http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/snotel/Utah/utah.html

post #12 of 20

Brighton: best early season skiing in many years.  Trees were great fun, despite the lack of base, enough cover to get way in there with few snags and crags underneath. Still not ready to bring out new SKI LOGIKS, but at this rate, they will be fired up sooner than planned. No complaints here. 

post #13 of 20

Oh, I'm so depressed...

 

I have the week off, and had plan to visit a friend at PC on my way to Montana. But a bad fall off the bike 6 weeks ago got me worried whether I'd be healed up enough to enjoy the trip. And thinking coverage isn't usually that great in November, I decided to bag it, despite the doctor declared I were expected to be well enough for physical activity 6 weeks post accident.

 

Now sitting on the couch feeling sorry for myself for missing all the fun. :( 

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Oh, I'm so depressed...

 

I have the week off, and had plan to visit a friend at PC on my way to Montana. But a bad fall off the bike 6 weeks ago got me worried whether I'd be healed up enough to enjoy the trip. And thinking coverage isn't usually that great in November, I decided to bag it, despite the doctor declared I were expected to be well enough for physical activity 6 weeks post accident.

 

Now sitting on the couch feeling sorry for myself for missing all the fun. :( 

 

the people who are lucky arent really lucky they make choices to get where they are at.

 

yet people who dont live near skiing always seem to be the unlucky one and let everyone know about over and over again.  Is there a "city" forum where I can go complain about how I dont live in a big city?

 

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Is there a "city" forum where I can go complain about how I dont live in a big city?


As a matter of fact, YES! :)
 

http://www.citisearch.com

http://www.yelp.com

http://www.classicalmusicguide.com

http://www.pubcrawls.com

http://www.facebook.com/nychalloween

http://social.macys.com/parade2010

 

Depending your interest. ;)

 

See, you aren't the only one who gets to enjoy where you live! Only others have multiple interests instead of single-minded persuit. So they too, "make choices to get where they are at"! And they even have the decency to not be condecending of other people's different choices.


Edited by at_nyc - 11/21/10 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post

Oh, I'm so depressed...

 

I have the week off, and had plan to visit a friend at PC on my way to Montana. But a bad fall off the bike 6 weeks ago got me worried whether I'd be healed up enough to enjoy the trip. And thinking coverage isn't usually that great in November, I decided to bag it, despite the doctor declared I were expected to be well enough for physical activity 6 weeks post accident.

 

Now sitting on the couch feeling sorry for myself for missing all the fun. :( 

 

the people who are lucky arent really lucky they make choices to get where they are at.

 

yet people who dont live near skiing always seem to be the unlucky one and let everyone know about over and over again.  Is there a "city" forum where I can go complain about how I dont live in a big city?

 



 



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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

 

Is there a "city" forum where I can go complain about how I dont live in a big city?


As a matter of fact, YES! :)
 

http://www.citisearch.com

http://www.yelp.com

http://www.classicalmusicguide.com

http://www.pubcrawls.com

http://www.facebook.com/nychalloween

http://social.macys.com/parade2010

 

Depending your interest. ;)

 

See, you aren't the only one who gets to enjoy where you live! Only others have multiple interests instead of single-minded persuit. So they too, "make choices to get where they are at"! And they even have the decency to not be condecending of other people's different choices.


I frequently meet people in town who tell me that I was crazy to leave DC and that they would love to live in the city. I will let them know about the city forum.

 

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I canT disagree with Bush- especailly about not feeling sorry for yourself but you could be sitting on your couch in SLC and still be wanting to be out there when injured. I have a plan and will be where i want to be soon, in the mean time, I know I will be wishing I was out there over the next few  days, when its that good theres no way around it. However, I rode my mtn bike yesterday, it was 33 degrees, no one one the trails, A great ride.  Cheers!

 

at_nyc, been there (several times with injuries), we all take risks at what we do and its just part of it. Sounds like you will be good to go soon, heal up, In the mean time, grab some new ski porn and enjoy the day where ever you are!  and yes, its OK, to see these pictures and want to be there!  

 

edit- I forgot to proof-read.....


Edited by Finndog - 11/22/10 at 9:21am
post #18 of 20

Thanks for the kind words. I've had my season truncated due to injuries. But this is the first time I had bike injury impacting my skiing. So it's new, and it hits me harder than usual. 

 

Like most here who are holding down non-skiing jobs, my skiing days are largely limited by time off from work. So to have time available (between jobs) and not able to ski is especially hard to take. The worst part being I'm actually well enough to ski now. But I wasn't sure I would be a month back and had to make a go vs. no go decision back then. I err on the conservative side. Hence the feeling sorry part which I would get over.

 

Actually, I went out on a 40 mile road ride Saturday. It was a nice balmy 52 degrees. This time of year, that IS balmy! And today is in the upper 50's so I ought to be able to squeeze in another ride. I'm not REALLY feeling sorry about myself. But those pictures make me want to be there!
 

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I can disagree with Bush- especailly about not feeling sorry for yourself but you could be sitting on your couch in SLC and still be wanting to be out there when injured. I have a plan and will be where i want to be soon, in the mean time, I know I will be wishing I was out there over the next few  days, when its that good theres no way around it. However, I rode my mtn bike yesterday, it was 33 degrees, no one one the trails, A great ride.  Cheers!

 

at_nyc, been there (several times with injuries), we all take risks at what we do and its just part of it. Sounds like you will be good to go soon, heal up, In the mean time, grab some new ski porn and enjoy the day where ever you are!  and yes, its OK, to see these pictures and want to be there!  

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I can disagree with Bush- especailly about not feeling sorry for yourself but you could be sitting on your couch in SLC and still be wanting to be out there when injured. I have a plan and will be where i want to be soon, in the mean time, I know I will be wishing I was out there over the next few  days, when its that good theres no way around it. However, I rode my mtn bike yesterday, it was 33 degrees, no one one the trails, A great ride.  Cheers!

 

at_nyc, been there (several times with injuries), we all take risks at what we do and its just part of it. Sounds like you will be good to go soon, heal up, In the mean time, grab some new ski porn and enjoy the day where ever you are!  and yes, its OK, to see these pictures and want to be there!  


I was injured my first season in UT and it really sucked. For me, the trick is to unplug from epic and focus on healing and not torture yourslef with ski gossip (at least it worked for me). Just have to find a way to deal until you are are all healed up.

 

Skiing right now, is good but the grass and sage brush was still poking through in the N UT mountains until last week. Places just opened and others are still closed for a reason. Not much base. Sking will sill be alot better in a couple weeks. Its a long season with plenty of great storms. So you missed this one, so what? The next one will be better.

 

You can take Bushies comment as a dig, but I think he was giveing a good message -- though it was blunt. Where you live is a choice. And we who live in ski country give up alot of culture and city amenities to get the acccess. But to me, I think its worth it. If you don't like where you are, move!


Edited by tromano - 11/22/10 at 9:33am
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OH crap, I meant to say, I CAN"T dissagree with Bush!  UGGHHH..  No , really I AGREE with him..  Sorry for the confusion.

 

I do think if you don't like the situation (any situation) it's up to you to make it what you want. 

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