EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › BIG GUY SKIS : Full-Length Models For Us Who Ski Well - Strong Advanced to Old Pros
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

BIG GUY SKIS : Full-Length Models For Us Who Ski Well - Strong Advanced to Old Pros - Page 2

post #31 of 58



 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Attacking Mid View Post



I'm the same size,  though was 10-15 lbs lighter back in the day.  I bought that ski while in college and kept it for many years until my boys were old enough to ski regularly and I could justify upgrading to more modern equipment.  I loved that ski,  however,  and I regret that I got rid of it.  I would mount it on the wall of my office had I kept it.

 

AM.

Quote:
Originally Posted by x10003q View Post

6'2" and 215lbs.

 

... Dynastar Course SL 203,  


I stll have these, the Dynamic VR27 Geants, and the Head DH. The Dynamics are a salmon color with pink Geze racing bindings. What a look. I have all of them lined up in the garage so I get to see them every day.

post #32 of 58

I thought Fischer Z17s (and all Tyrolia 17-DIN bindings) have a 6-17 range.  All the ones I've seen do, and IMHO, that's one of their prime attractions.  The range compresses once you add more metal, in an 18+ DIN.

post #33 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDad View Post

I thought Fischer Z17s (and all Tyrolia 17-DIN bindings) have a 6-17 range.  All the ones I've seen do, and IMHO, that's one of their prime attractions.  The range compresses once you add more metal, in an 18+ DIN.


I just checked the bindings and they are Z18. Duh.They had a couple of these Fischers at the swap (including the hole ski). I guess I thought they were all Z17. The DIN is 9-18..
 

post #34 of 58

I am 6' 2"  230 and have skiied for the last 35 years.

 

Current skis:

     Dynastar Sultan 85 in 184

     Rossi Super S7 which is 195

 

Not to hijack the thread, but as we are talking about full length skis, can any one recommend a bag that fits them?  I am looking for a bag for the Super 7, as the "200cm" bag I bought online doesn't fit the Rossi.

 

Thanks

 

JD
 

post #35 of 58

Okieshooter,

 

Dakine Concourse Double in 185...  Last year I took my 187 Movement Thunders and 191 ON3P Wrenegades out West and bothy fit no problem at all...  The Super 7's are not any longer than my Wrens and will fit with room to spare...!

post #36 of 58

Thanks, I read another post that recommended the bag.  I'll order one tonight.  I find it crazy now, but we used to just wrap them in a blanket, throw them in the back of the truck and take off.  Of course I couldn't afford a bag then.

post #37 of 58

6'1" 190  45yrs old

 

Alyeska is my home mountain. I like it fast and steep, big GS turns.

 

My favorite

 

Last years 09/10 Kastle MX98 in a 194

 

"They are what we thought they were"

 

I have to wipe the grin off, they are that F#@% good.

 

They are a traditional raceroom metal laminate ski with such a fantastic silky damp feel and charging stiff yet supple flex. The feel is hard to describe, its like  a perfectly tuned instrument, they just sing. Those Austrians know how make skis.

 

If you can find them, buy them. They softened them up this year to placate the masses, and neutered the length to 188. Such a shame.

 

_DSC1147.JPG


Edited by SunshineTom - 12/17/10 at 12:45am
post #38 of 58
Thread Starter 

Hey 'X', I feel your pain. ha-ha At 55 I just went through that with mounting my K2s. While the boyz at Peter Glenn's were more than gracious, I guess they know when a seasoned skier wants more DIN, they are happy to help after signingthe waiver.

I start around 9 early season and dial up to 10.5-11.5 depending on where I am. Nothing worse than coming down a chute and when it widens out a bit, and then turn up the volume only to find one of your boards just went off on its own. Learned this the hard way at J-Hole back in the early '90s. YIKES!!! Longest slide I ever went on, but at least I had cleared the REAL serious stuff.

 

Caucasian, Ninthward just came out with two rockered models, many they heard you? lol

post #39 of 58

Hey I fit nicely into this thread.  48 years old, 6' and 210 and still in pretty good shape, and like to ski big turns, or I should say, as big a turn as the terrain or people traffic will allow.  Of course like everyone in this age group, we grew up skiing long skis.  To many 207's, or 210's to mention.  I still love big skis, and still think short skis suck.  I could be(or know) I'm a little abnormal with my ski choice as Sugarloaf is my home hill, a great mountain that has a strong ski racing history, with lots of folks that are pretty happy with a chest high racing slaloms.  But whatever.  To each his own.  My current quiver is:

 

194 Legend Pro and 192 Watea 101 as my everydays.  I usually will alternate but for no particular reason.  I like the ride from either though the Wateas radius is a little less and is better in the pow.  Big day ski or west trip ski is the 193 Big Dumps.  Wow what a ride they are.  Touring ski is 193 Big Daddy, the 107 waist version. 

 

Theres something about the way a big long ski rumbles along that I love and can't get enough of.   

post #40 of 58

double post.

post #41 of 58


Well, I'm 6'3 and 250#, so I guess I can post, tho I'm not sure that I'll be all that relevant.

 

I'm really loving the Nordica Hotrod Helldiver CA that I picked up from StatHaus. Stiff, stable, and turns on a dime. My daily driver in a 186. Certainly worth a look, tho the Enforcer will prolly be better for most looking for a mid-fat.

 

My next set of boards will def be Stokli XXLs. >190.

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by snokat View Post

If you ski full length mids to fatties, and know how to drive 'em, lets find out what your riding on. I'm thinking also, that if you aren't a big guy, say 195+ and over 6', but still go whole-hog jump on in.

post #42 of 58

A little late on the thread but.. 6ft 230 athletic 46yrs. Skiing since 5yrs old. EX freestyle Mogal skier with decent knees some how? 

 

Daily front side ski Nordica Jetful TI 176 with the marker 14din railflex. Sickest front side ski on the planet if you ask me. Never had a better high speed charging rocket as good and smooth as these. You can lay your hip to the snow an these at speed. Love them for groomers. Sink in the powder.

 

Softer snow ski 2-3inches of fresh on groomed or hard pack though Jetfuels rock on this my Hart Fuile Boss 189 Neox 6/14 92 under foot rock harder. Super fast GS type turns crud busting machine for big guys. Love these in those conditions. Very stable at any speed GPS,ed at just under 60mph last year!!

 

 Powder ski?? TBA Big delema. Might go for the new Obsethed? Trying them out next weekend. Kantana is on my list also both in the longer lengths. Want Dukes & skins for stash searching on those inbetween days and still skiout to the chair at the bottom. Must still hold some kinda edge on soft groomers getting there. Liked old goats dont like new goats as much. Liked  Fisher Prophete but not enough to warrent a purchase. Still looking.

 

post #43 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by whipper View Post

 Powder ski?? TBA Big delema.


Can't beat the 195 or 205 Praxis Powder.

post #44 of 58

I don't really consider myself a big guy, but I guess I am by skiing standards.

 

I'm 6'3" 220lbs and I've only been skiing 3 years, exclusively in Tahoe.  I've made a huge jump in my abilities this season.

 

I started out skiing on some Line twin tip, can't remember the model or length but I immediately hated the floppy tips when I tried to keep up with my fast skiing friends.  My next ski was a 177 Volkl AC50 which was great for speed, but not a lot of fun.

 

Sold the AC50 and my current skis are:

 

165 Head iSL RD - short but it's the longest they make and I really, really have to be on my game to ski these.  I catch edges I didn't even know I had if I get lazy.

 

175 Head Supershape - love these skis

 

180 Hart Phoenix - just got'em.  I'll find out how I like them this weekend. 

 

Between the Phoenix and the Supershape, I might get rid of one pair because there's overlap in ability.

 

I'm trying to find a mid-fat all mountain ski for tree skiing, a little bit of powder, and hitting Mott Canyon at Heavenly. I think the 191 Scott Punishers should meet my needs, but I'm open to alternatives but not really sure what's similar in capabilities.


Edited by esso - 3/9/11 at 8:58am
post #45 of 58

Cool thread.

 

I am current 6'1" and 215 lbs. However, this is the lightest I've been in a decade- the beginning of last ski season I was 280 (and could still throw down ;) ).

 

About ten years ago, I blew up a knee, and went from an expert skier to one that couldn't venture off the groomers. The knee has steadily gained strength, and my skiing has come back in a big way. So, my skies have steadily gotten longer and longer and longer.

 

Before my knee injury, I was skiing on a set of 1993-1994 205 Salomon 9000 Equipes- I hadn't bought into the shaped ski revolution.

 

In the early 2000's, when I decided to try and break back into skiing, I had...

 

170cm Dynastar VR7 of a 2002 vintage.

174 K2 Apche Recon (2007)

183 Atomic Sugar Daddies (2003)

and my current ski is a 189 K2 Kung Fujas, which I LOVE.

 

I also have several pair of 170-175 carver skis that I've picked up for cheap for friends to have better options than rentals, but they are so damned short I can't really push them. I wouldn't ski anything shorter than a mid 180's ski these days.

 

 

post #46 of 58

 

Quote:
I also have several pair of 170-175 carver skis that I've picked up for cheap for friends to have better options than rentals, but they are so damned short I can't really push them.

 

You've got the wrong "carvers".  I'm 6'6", 260, and I'm on a 175cm Fischer Progressor 9+.  (I could have gone for the 180, but wanted better maneuverability in the bumps, and they're stable at anything short of race speeds.)

 

Something like a Head SuperShape or Nordica Mach3 (changed their lineup this year; not sure what replaced it) can also handle high speeds without huge length.  I hear good things about the new Blizzards, too.  It's all about torsional stiffness and dampening these days.

 

Of course, it also depends on what you mean by "push them"... I mean, they're not race stock.  But any of those are way more forgiving than race skis.

post #47 of 58

I just mean that with all of them, it feels like I am in the backseat because there isn't enough ski for me to get forward on.

post #48 of 58

So I know this is an old thread, but I find it very interesting.

 

I've been looking for my next set of sticks for awhile (currently on 169 Crimson Ti, I'm 6' 235 and reasonably advanced).

 

I find the Crimson's to be happy going as fast as I ever want to (which is faster than most, most of the time).  But, I also tend to spend the vast majority of my time in the trees.

 

So my question is this - other than going faster on a groomer, what is/are the benefits of a longer ski?  I'm looking at the S3 or The One in a 176/77, but am curious about what going longer might get me.

 

The Crimson's are pretty stiff, so I think the S3/One would be softer, so maybe easier to turn even though longer (plus rocker)?

 

I've always though I should go as short as I could get away with, not as long as I could ski.  Am I backwards on that?

post #49 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by x10003q View Post

 

I also learned that all my bindings are now set too high. A week before I bought the Fischers I turned 50. I filled out the form for the binding adjustment and left the shop. A few days later they said I need to get some bindings on the ski with a lower DIN setting. The Z17 DIN range is 9-18. I figured they would be set on 9 where I have been set since I stopped racing. They told me since I turned 50 my DIN is a 7. I told them set it on 9 and  I would sign a waiver and they were ok with fitting my boots. They would not "test" the binding. How silly is this situation. If I said I was 49 this wouldn't have happened. I would hate to be flying down a trail at 50 mph, hit a bump or divot, and lose a ski because it was set at 7. Yikes.


I just went through this last week, signing a waiver for the DIN setting.  The shop said for me (6'5", 200 #, age 51) my DIN should be 7.5.  I said, no, I'll go with 8.5 like all my other bindings are set at.  Out comes the waiver, which immediately got me doubting whether I knew WTF I was doing.  Signed it, went cat skiing, and put one ski under a log.  No release.  Ouch - worst crash of the season (I hope; it's not over yet).  Makes me wonder if the charts know more than I do.
 

 

post #50 of 58

I used to ski 185 Volkl Chopsticks. That's the biggest size the come in, but they're quite stiff and you need to be big to muscle them around.

post #51 of 58

The exact reason I put my weight down at 148#, not 145# like I actually am.  Just put your age at 49 next time though
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpikeDog View Post




I just went through this last week, signing a waiver for the DIN setting.  The shop said for me (6'5", 200 #, age 51) my DIN should be 7.5.  I said, no, I'll go with 8.5 like all my other bindings are set at.  Out comes the waiver, which immediately got me doubting whether I knew WTF I was doing.  Signed it, went cat skiing, and put one ski under a log.  No release.  Ouch - worst crash of the season (I hope; it's not over yet).  Makes me wonder if the charts know more than I do.
 

 



 

post #52 of 58

Not all skis have to be long.

I'm 5'10", 215 pounds.  My current favorite ski is a 188 K2 Coomba (105 mm wide).

But I also have a 165 Fischer slalom ski, which is good for short turns on ice (and plenty beefy).

 

I will admit I'm not liking my middle ski (a 178 Rossi B3, 83 mm wide) so much anymore.

post #53 of 58

If you want speed:

 

http://www.levelninesports.com/Head-Supermojo-103-Team-Skis

 

I had to get rid of mine, I can't handle the 40m radius and super stiffness.  At $199 @ 183 or 193cm for massive construction, it's quite the deal.  If you want to burn snow, look no further.

post #54 of 58
Although I have to register an interest.........the Whitedot Ragnarok XII is a full on charging ski and perfect for a big strong guy. I helped develop this ski and it has been tuned for the strong Scandi skier who wants to charge down big lines.

And there are only a few pairs in the US. There are a few reviews on the web....a single rocker ski, dims - 143/120/130. Again, apologies for the plug, but I couldn't resist this thread!

Mark
post #55 of 58
Thread Starter 

The Supermojos don't really turn, if 40 meter radius is a turn.eek.gif I tend to go with something around a 22-24 meter turn, seems you can always ask more from a ski than the numbers indicate, and still straight-line a drop. I had a pair of Volkl Varios way back that were so quiet at full-speed they were insane on anything but buff.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        MattGoose, if you haven't gone to the full-blown version of any skis you are presently on, especially at your size, you should try some out, the ride will tell you what you are missing out on. I hear your skis groaning on the flats and the buff. Quiet tracking and stability are two bonuses you'll notice immediately at speed, not to mention being able to point 'em and go with confidence. Might I suggest you try at least a pair of 180s in a heavy, damp Head or any Austrian heavyweight board. Any twin-tip at 186+ you should be able to handle. No one skis moguls all day.

 

Tele-Mark, duly noted for your plug. he-he

 

As far as DIN goes, the shops are paying big insurance premiums, so just sign the release. Diagonal race heels usually can handle the load...at least mine have so far. I did have an inside ski slowly hook-out after landing a small 10 foot rockband a few seasons back, and i remember waiting for the damn release to come before I decided to roll out to the cheers of several buddies and other onlookers.

post #56 of 58

Got to know the difference between the Supermojo 105's and 103's.  One is a tank (103) and one isn't.  The 105's are supposedly closer to the Mojo 90 in flex, which is actually pretty playful.

 

Can't say I've ever heard of WhiteDot skis.  Guess I have now....

post #57 of 58

Howdy! I'm somewhat short for this thread, but heavy enough, 5' 11", usually 215 to start the season. 

right now, depending on conditions, i ski:

 

185 '10 nordica enforcer 135-98-125. Rails turns on hardpack, loves 6" of snow, hates bumps (maybe it's just me)

185 '10 armada jj 126-136-115-133-123 Killer in every condition, loves tight, powdery trees. I keep it on edge on high-speed groomers, but that's not what i have these babies for. I have a boner for these sticks that won't subside.

186 '12 High Society FR Rockers 150-122-140 Pretty much powder-only, but will hold an edge. The 3 days on these boards last season (read: sucked most of the year in Aspen) weren't enough to really fall in love, but i will say they keep you on top of powder and cut crud like a hot knife through butter. Looking forward to a few more pow days to really get used to them.

 

I'm also super curious about the ak jj. in deep pow, with the rockered tails, the 185 jj skis a little short. I always wanted a couple more cm's on these for big days.

post #58 of 58

^^^^

It's you.   It wasn't the greatest year, but I didn't think it really sucked.  Well, until April anyhow?

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › BIG GUY SKIS : Full-Length Models For Us Who Ski Well - Strong Advanced to Old Pros