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What about your rock skis?

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 

some mountains, like mine, are mostly rock. skis take a beating early season until the coverage is good.

 

so your best skis don't go out for a while and you need to ski on something. enter the rock ski.

 

around here there are several solutions:

 

classic top end skis with lots of good days on them, your go to ski in their day, now dull and full of core shots, like the Volkl G-31  

 

similar,  a beat up ski only a few seasons old, that had been your daily driver until you beat the edges up and ruined the bases.

 

different,   I once bought some skis that were not great but cheap as a Rock Ski. didn't work 'cause a rock ski has to do everything well, except hold an edge.

 

post #2 of 29

Is there a question here or you "just sayin"? th_dunno-1[1].gifpopcorn.gif

post #3 of 29

Someone on here (I think it was Jer), once said: 

"When does a ski become a rock ski?  The day you mount em'."

 

Besides, If this Sierra blizzard comes thru, you won't need no stinkin' rock skis.

 

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JF

post #4 of 29

all my skis are rock skis. 

post #5 of 29
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Originally Posted by 4ster View Post

Someone on here (I think it was Jer), once said: 

"When does a ski become a rock ski?  The day you mount em'."

JF


I like it.

 

 

I like the Mad River Glen motto.. "You either arrive with rock skis..or you leave with them"

post #6 of 29
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

all my skis are rock skis. 



Then again, maybe it was you.

 

I just waxed seven pairs of skis.  Six of them are rock skis, the seventh (new S7's) are not mounted yet.

JF

post #7 of 29

If there was a question installed in this thread, my answer would be Public Enemy 179's.

post #8 of 29

Me?  Elan M666.  We get some serious rocks down here.  I get where Jer and 4ster are coming from, but if I get round to buying some Kastle MX78s damned if I'm taking them out early in the season.

post #9 of 29
Thread Starter 

I forgot, the question, oh yeah, what are your rock skis?, how did you come by your rock skis?, have you ever seen really cool classic rock skis?, what do you do when it's icy but you only want to take out your rock skis? does one need a sidewall planer to get the most out of your rock skis?

 

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Is there a question here or you "just sayin"? th_dunno-1[1].gifpopcorn.gif



 

post #10 of 29

Here it's really unpredictable. Our mountain is mostly rock, too, so I always stock up on skis assuming I'll blow out a pair or two in a full season.

 

But then we get seasons like 2008-09 or 2009-10, in which, try as I may, I can't hit a bloody rock.
 

So, yes, all skis are rock-skis-in-waiting. You just never know when the transition's gonna come.

post #11 of 29
For days when your rock skis are too nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFVdcHteG0k
post #12 of 29
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For days when your rock skis are too nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFVdcHteG0k


That's some frozen tundra there.

JF

post #13 of 29
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

similar,  a beat up ski only a few seasons old, that had been your daily driver until you beat the edges up and ruined the bases.

 

My version. Most recent former love...
 

post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

all my skis are rock skis. 



Not if you owned Kastles. Or Folsoms. Or any other $$$ ski.  biggrin.gif

post #15 of 29

Nothing bums me out more than ripping up the bottom of my skis and that sickening sound heard when you do it. Wish I wasn't so anal about it and I admit it will restrict my skiing on some days but I can't shake it. 

post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by roundturns View Post

Nothing bums me out more than ripping up the bottom of my skis and that sickening sound heard when you do it. Wish I wasn't so anal about it and I admit it will restrict my skiing on some days but I can't shake it. 


This is what the sub-$35 rack at the ski swap is for.
post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

I like the Mad River Glen motto.. "You either arrive with rock skis..or you leave with them"

 

Funny.  I've been saying the same thing about Lake Louise, in Banff, for years.  I stopped skiing there a decade ago because of the big repair bills each time.

 

My current rock skis are a pair of three year old race stock Fischer World Cup Slaloms.  The edges are so paper thin that there are actually a couple of spots where I've blown the edge right off and have filled it with epoxy and ground it smooth so they still glide.
 

post #18 of 29
Thread Starter 

If you find a ski you truly can ski on in the cheap rack,icon14.gif you're golden.

I seem to generate rock skis one pair every few seasons.

I do not trash all my skis, some are protected, I'll own up to that. what good is a dull 75mm carverth_dunno-1[1].gif

post #19 of 29

This season I picked up some used Moment Ruby 190s as my primary rock skis.  I have nicer skis that I got for less, but these Rubys had enough dings already that I didn't feel like I would go to ski hell for beating them up.  Other considerations included their bomber construction, so they will actually last as rock skis for more than a season, and the fact that they can ski anything, especially shallow powder really well.  I have been loving them- and I have a new core shot to fix on them tomorrow.  :)

post #20 of 29

Since the Gold Gotamas are butter bases, I've devoted them to the rock ski category. I don't care anymore if I feel the dreaded rock under my feet, cause they're mostly ptex by now anyway. They are still one of my favorite traditional cambered skis, but no reason not to enjoy em, or worry about new coreshots.

post #21 of 29

'They all become rock skis eventually.",  I was told this by a former bartender at Snowbowl. True.

 

I have a pair of V2 Chubbs I use for the rocky part of the season, and my Ti Powers when the early scanty base is hard, but they were both worn down to the state of being relegated to higher risk periods.

 

I often have experienced the anxiety which goes with having a nice pair of skis I want to protect, but I actually always feel relieved once I catch a big runner down my current "good" sticks, then they aren't a museum pieces any more, and are more like a hammer I drive nails with. Git 'er dun......

post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post

I often have experienced the anxiety which goes with having a nice pair of skis I want to protect, but I actually always feel relieved once I catch a big runner down my current "good" sticks, then they aren't a museum pieces any more, and are more like a hammer I drive nails with. Git 'er dun......

I'm very anxious now waiting for the season to start because I finally have new skis that I can't wait to try but I'm afraid to beat them up first time out. Not sure whether to just go for it, try to find a pair of used beaters, our (yuck) rent again until the snow is good.
post #23 of 29

Years ago, I met a guy at Killington who was using his rock skis on a spring day.  The edges were peeling away from the bases, so every couple runs he'd take his skis off and stomp the edges back into place.  I'm not sure why he was bothering -- who needs edges in spring slush?  And after stomping on them as many time as he did, I can't imagine the edges were anything other then "flattened".

 

I go with the "all my skis are rock skis" theory.  New England bump runs inevitably have stuff poking up in the troughs.  I always say I'm going to be "nice" to a pair of skis and then I'm not.  Tools, not jewels.

post #24 of 29

I have a pair of Elan 666's for my rocks, but I haven't had to use them for the last two years.  We opened with huge dumps that gave us full coverage and no rocks both years.  This year looks different though.  We're opening with only a 35" base so they'll get a trip to the mountain tomorrow.  

 

If you pay any attention at all to the coverage, the maxim that all skis become rock skis is not applicable around here.  You can wear out a pair and get almost no dings while skiing Baker.  However, most of us go to Whistler from time to time and you can really trash a pair there.

post #25 of 29
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p; Tools, not jewels.

*has to put a Kevlar bag over his joke-typing hand to make it behave*
post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by roundturns View Post

Nothing bums me out more than ripping up the bottom of my skis and that sickening sound heard when you do it. Wish I wasn't so anal about it and I admit it will restrict my skiing on some days but I can't shake it. 




This is what the sub-$35 rack at the ski swap is for.


To put your skis after you ruined them? :)

post #27 of 29
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post

To put your skis after you ruined them? :)

You're confusing the sub $35 rack at the ski swap and teh free donation rack _on_ the mountain.
post #28 of 29
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Originally Posted by 4ster View Post

Someone on here (I think it was Jer), once said: 

"When does a ski become a rock ski?  The day you mount em'."

biggrin.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

all my skis are rock skis. 



Yeah. No sense in prolonging the inevitable. Fortunately, my new favorite ski (Praxis) have some kind of immortal p-tex compound. I've been brutally sharked quite a few times with no core shots. That said, I'll probably destroy the pair I just got first time I hit the snow this year. (knock on wood)

post #29 of 29
Thread Starter 

of course a beat up powder ski still works pretty well long as you're not skiing a lot of ice to get to the powder, whereas a beat up (unsharpenable edges) ice ski ceases to function as a useful tool. it's a dilemna.

 

so, no, I'm not in favor of destroying all my skis. some carry a protected status.

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