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Looking for new Skis to Demo then Buy

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

I'm a 165lbs, 6' 5.5" tall intermediate to expert skier guy.

 

I love to go REAL fast (one of my main goals), but I also enjoy turns of various lengths, I don't like tricks, but I'll jump up or take on a small pack of snow once in a while to alleviate the boring part of skiing.

I mostly do groomed and icy(whenever that happens), but I also happen to occasionally ride into light snowpacks, I should mention that I DO NOT want or perform backcountry or off-terrain skiing, so 90+ (or 100+)mm skis are most likely not for me.

 

This is my first time buying skis, I've been skiing on rentals for a couple of years now, and sick of rentals.

I'll also be looking for boots, to buy along with my skis, but I don't think they need to be related in this thread.

 

My mantra is if it's high quality, and it's perfect for me, and it's durable and will last for 8 more seasons with medium use and care, then I'll spend as much money within reason as required, otherwise I'm looking for the low-medium price range.

 

I'll be going to Northstar and Heavenly (Tahoe, NV) after Thanksgiving, and demoing skis for 2 days (I assume I can change skis during the entire day).

I'd like some recommendations for Brands and Models of skis I should try.

 

What I had in mind from my research on skiing,

178cm length, 78-84mm width

 

of course if you think I should try a longer ski or a wider ski, please let me know and for what reasons.

post #2 of 11

I would go a little longer than 178 at your height (not sure of your weight).  Based on what you like, I would focus on skis from Volkl, Atomic, Blizzard and Nordica.   A couple of skis that come immediately to mind are Volkl AC50s, Blizzard 8.7s, and Nordica Hot Rods.  Most people are buying (or at least manufacturers are marketing) skis a little wider than that so you may be able to score a good deal on some older models like this from Level 9:

 

http://www.levelninesports.com/Head-Monster-Im-78-Sp-Skis-Red

post #3 of 11
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My weight is the first thing I mentioned in the post above.

 

You haven't listed Salomons? My uncle and his friend have them and like them, though my uncle isn't as good a skier as I am.

 

Volkl 50AC I believe are way too expensive, something like $1300.

 

 

I should mention that I tried performance rental package skies from the resort rental place, and I would get a lot of chatter when I would make fast turns, while almost sliding sideways. THAT CHATTER I HATE.

 

I'm not sure but that might have something to do with my weight, being 165 LBS, so keep it in mind.

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Originally Posted by kandrey89 View Post

My weight is the first thing I mentioned in the post above.

 

 

Sorry for the oversight of the obvious.  At your weight, I would still compare a longer length since you like ski fast and your height would give it a slight edge in fore/aft stability but you could probably be fine with a 178.

 

I gave up on Salomon about 10 years ago after owning a pair for a few years (it is the only ski I have ever owned that I didn't like).  They may be better now but I simply have not chosen to try them even at demo days.

post #5 of 11

In the range you specified, I'd look at the Head im 82/peak 82 (not this year's model), the Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous CA/TI, Top Fuel, or Jet fuel, Nordica Fire Arrow 80, Blizzard Magnum 8.1 iq max, Volkl AC50 (you can find it for cheaper in than 1300), Atomic Crimson/Crimson Ti, Atomic D2 VF 82, or Fischer Motive 84.

post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 

My uncle has Salomon Storm 2010. He likes them, I think I'll check them out too, price seems right, they are what I'm looking for in width 76mm, thought max length is 176cm.

 

What would you say about Salomon Tornado?

post #7 of 11
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I'd say that 90-95% of the time I'm on piste/stay on groomed and marked ski runs, as they are the most developed, not snowed in, and usually provide fast speeds.

 

So you guys really think that I should think about 82-84mm base skis? Why, why not 76-80mm?

 

Although I have a couple of years of experience, I know jack rabbit about what that experience was since I neither knew what I was riding or how I was supposed to feel, I was sort of the wear any crap clothing I could find, ski however it worked... and got me fast and made me feel like I'm skiing.

 

I guess I'm trying to translate that experience into numbers to use it to choose my new skis, I live 4-5 hours away from the resorts, so it's not like I can hop on a bus or get a 1 hour ride to the mountain to experiment. In fact this is the first season that I even bought a Season resort pass to Heavenly, I haven't even been to Heavenly, but my Uncle said it's longer than Northstar and better, compared to Boreal (crap), Mt. Rose (expensive and small, although nice for starters), Sierra (small but real fun and nice), Northstar (spacious, fun, exciting, love it).

post #8 of 11

Well, the Nitrous/Top Fuel is a 78, and the Firearrow is 80.  Another ski to look at that I missed is the Volkl AC30, at 80 underfoot.  Those high-end Volkl AC's are some of the most powerful carvers on the market, despite their girth.

post #9 of 11
I can reccomend the Volkl AC30 as I own a pair. They will do everything you mentioned and more. The more? They will invite you to start exploring off piste when you are ready to do so. As an advancing intermediate, they would be a better choice that the AC50 which is very stiff and more demanding. I demo'd both and found the 30 to be easier to get comfortable on and more versatile especially if you like bumps. At your height / wt I would suggest the 177. I wouldn't go longer unless you plan on packing some muscle onto your lanky 6'5" 165lb frame. There are some left over 2010 models out there if you can find them.

The Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous is no longer made replaced by the Tempest. which has a revised shape this year growing to 80 mm under foot. I am sure that would also be a good choice. Other choices especially if you are skiing new school carving, the Blizzard Mag IQ 7.6 and the Rossi Avenger ti 76, both of those are one step down in the line but offer solid performance above and beyond their intermediate label.

Good Luck,

Rick G
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 

Thank you those recommendations sound excellent, I hope I can demo enough of the skis in 2 days.

post #11 of 11
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I'd say that 90-95% of the time I'm on piste/stay on groomed and marked ski runs, as they are the most developed, not snowed in, and usually provide fast speeds.

 

So you guys really think that I should think about 82-84mm base skis? Why, why not 76-80mm?

 

I'd think that width or even narrower, if you really want something to go very fast on groomed trails and don't care about off-piste performance.  Like: Nordica "Hot Rod" series, Head SuperShape series, Fischer Progressor, Dynastar Contact, Salomon X-Wing (like the Tornado or Storm models mentioned above).

 

If you want something *really* damp (no chatter), the Head "Chip" models might fit the bill.

 

With your weight (relatively light for someone 6'5 -- I'm 6'6", 260lbs), you might look closer to 170mm than 180mm.  You may have a hard time flexing stiffer skis at low speeds, and longer models will just be even stiffer.  If you find a ski that you like, and the shop has them, demoing the same ski in different lengths may be helpful.

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