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Hey all - this seems like a great community, and very knowledgeable... so perhaps you can help me find a new west coast ski!

 

Me: Somewhere around "expert" but not a pro. Skiing for 15 years, but my days vary between 5 - 15. Comfortable everywhere, but not looking to prove it to everyone by cliff-jumping. Happy to spend a day cruising with friends, but prefer bumps and trees.  

 

Current Skis: I generally ski east coast on my Volkl Tigersharks. I love them for the cruddy, icy snow - they blow through anything and you can carry some heavy speed on the less-than-exciting "steeps" out here. But they're heavy, thick, and way too stiff for the type of skiing I do out west, which is more ungroomed and "side-piste" type skiing.

 

What I'm After: For my west coast trips (usually Colorado, occasionally Park City) since I can only travel with one ski, I need something versatile enough to ski any condition (ruling out the big-powder / backcountry skis). But I want something performance oriented to focus on the more technical skiing that will allow me to tackle the bowls and bumps in a way I just can't do on the Tigersharks. I'm willing to sacrifice the speed for a quick turner that floats better, even if it means less stability on piste. Cost is of course a consideration, but not a primary driver.

 

What should I be looking at? Who's making the best all-mountain / freerides right now? I've heard good things about the Head Peak 82s, but have never really thought of them as in the top-tier of manufacturers. Maybe that's changed? What's the real deal on rocker skis? Should I be taking them seriously for my skiing style?

 

Help me out!

 

Thanks!!

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Hey all - this seems like a great community, and very knowledgeable... so perhaps you can help me find a new west coast ski!

 

Me: Somewhere around "expert" but not a pro. Skiing for 15 years, but my days vary between 5 - 15. Comfortable everywhere, but not looking to prove it to everyone by cliff-jumping. Happy to spend a day cruising with friends, but prefer bumps and trees.  

 

Current Skis: I generally ski east coast on my Volkl Tigersharks. I love them for the cruddy, icy snow - they blow through anything and you can carry some heavy speed on the less-than-exciting "steeps" out here. But they're heavy, thick, and way too stiff for the type of skiing I do out west, which is more ungroomed and "side-piste" type skiing.

 

What I'm After: For my west coast trips (usually Colorado, occasionally Park City) since I can only travel with one ski, I need something versatile enough to ski any condition (ruling out the big-powder / backcountry skis). But I want something performance oriented to focus on the more technical skiing that will allow me to tackle the bowls and bumps in a way I just can't do on the Tigersharks. I'm willing to sacrifice the speed for a quick turner that floats better, even if it means less stability on piste. Cost is of course a consideration, but not a primary driver.

 

What should I be looking at? Who's making the best all-mountain / freerides right now? I've heard good things about the Head Peak 82s, but have never really thought of them as in the top-tier of manufacturers. Maybe that's changed? What's the real deal on rocker skis? Should I be taking them seriously for my skiing style?

 

Help me out!

 

Thanks!!



to not buy a rockered ski is to discount science.

 

Basically you should be looking at 90 to 105 mm  underfoot, probably about 10cm longer than you Tigersharks with a longer turn radius. Rocker is really nice. The best examples are changing people opinions on what on ski should be able to do.

 

post #3 of 8

 If you want something a more traditional check out the Prophet 100. My in bounds ski for Fernie and Castle for the last 3 seasons. Carves like a demon as long as it's not boilerplate, very quick in bumps and trees, and floats  nicely. This Youtube is not BS http://www.youtube.com/user/LineSkisYo#p/c/FF5559CC7B85585E/16/ZEw6hH5l8Zo.

It works just like it says even for an average skier like me. 

Extra thick bases and edges too- pretty bulletproof.

Check reviews here and TGR

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=8056984f026eb8dfabc57953734e24aa&t=104129

post #4 of 8

Try reading this.....http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/92748/western-daily-drivers-in-the-90-100mm-range..............and see what sounds good.

 

SJ

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Thread Starter 

SJ - wow, that's a great resource, thanks! From what I read, it seems like the Dynastar Sultan 94 or the Blizzard "The One" could be exactly what I'm looking for.

 

What's your view on the double rise rocker set-up vs. the (seemingly) more basic "tip rise" of the Sultan? I certainly prefer the look of the Blizzards, but can't pick on that basis... I'd assume the heavier sidecut of the Sultans would improve on-piste performance, which seems to jive with your comments. Finally, you say you'd prefer The One in a 184... for what reason?

 

Appreciate the feedback!!

post #6 of 8

First....we should be clear about the tip rise on the Sultan......there isn't any. The tip rise that they advertise is a figment of their marketing departments imagination. Having said that, the Sultan 94 is one of the stars of this years' show in the mid 90s width range. For a ski in this width range, I generally ignore sidecut b/c we are now talking about skis that will spend half their time in conditions where sidecut doesn't matter that much.

 

The One is a "mini rocker" ski in that the the rise and run on the rockered sections is pretty small. The effect is that it offers a level of nimbleness in mixed conditions that Sultan doesn't offer. The tradeoff is that the Sultan offers stability in mixed conditions and turn transitions that the One doesn't offer. Although the personalities are different, the capabilities are very similar. If you want playful....go for the One. If you want more serious....go for the Sultan.

 

SJ

post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 

Gotcha, thanks. So how do you think The One might compare to the old (05 or 06) Dynastar Trouble Makers that I handed down to my brother a few years back? I felt like they were a little too park focused and felt a bit soft elsewhere.

post #8 of 8

They are not even close to the same category of ski. Honestly, a comparison between a 98mm tip and tail riser ski to a conventional 78mm mostly park oriented ski would sorta sound like restating the obvious but briefly.....the TM would be better in bumps and the ark, the One would be better at everything else.

 

SJ

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