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post #1 of 12
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So I'm looking at the Blizzard Titan Atlas, Answer and The One. I have skied the Atlas but not the other two. How do the Answer and The One compare to the Atlas? I liked the stability of the Atlas and it handled large turns in powder well, but the float wasn't great. How much carving stability would I lose going to the Answer or The One? Are they even comparable to the Atlas?

post #2 of 12

why not the argos? if you want more float over the Atlas.

post #3 of 12

I felt the One carved VERY well and even held pretty on some pretty solid snow. I can't speak to the float as I only had it in spring mush, but it did well there too.

post #4 of 12
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I thought the Argos has a flat camber and I wasn't sure how good a carver it would be. I'm sure it floats better, but I didn't think it would be comparable. I'm really looking for a single ski quiver.

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I have the 09 Argos in 186.  I have only skied it a couple of days in boot height powder at Alta, but wasn't really impressed with float. Just my $.02 ( I am not the best person to ask on this for a variety of reasons--skill level, size --6'4 260lbs at the time--240 now, with much better legs and overall fitness these days).  I was amazed at how well it carved on a no new snow day at Park City.  Now that I am in a lot better shape, and have gotten closer to a real level 8 skier, I am interested in seeing how the Argos does for me in whatever conditions I get in early Feb. in Steamboat. 

 

By comparison, I skied (sp?) the Mythic Rider in about the same depth of powder in 08 and thought it floated better than the argos, and was just about as good as Argos in crud.  The Argos, at least the one I have, is pretty stiff even for my heavy arse.  Most stable thing in the world on packed or hard. 

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Originally Posted by mtwhoosh View Post

I have the 09 Argos in 186.  I have only skied it a couple of days in boot height powder at Alta, but wasn't really impressed with float. Just my $.02 ( I am not the best person to ask on this for a variety of reasons--skill level, size --6'4 260lbs at the time--240 now, with much better legs and overall fitness these days).  I was amazed at how well it carved on a no new snow day at Park City.  Now that I am in a lot better shape, and have gotten closer to a real level 8 skier, I am interested in seeing how the Argos does for me in whatever conditions I get in early Feb. in Steamboat. 

 

By comparison, I skied (sp?) the Mythic Rider in about the same depth of powder in 08 and thought it floated better than the argos, and was just about as good as Argos in crud.  The Argos, at least the one I have, is pretty stiff even for my heavy arse.  Most stable thing in the world on packed or hard. 


so you skied the 105mm underfoot Argos the one I am talking about and it didnt float powder as well as a 88mm under foot mythic rider.

post #7 of 12

Well, the one I skied was the 09, so its 101 in the waist.  I think the 2010 is 105.  At some point I think they added rocker or more early rise in the tip, but not sure if it was 2009 v. 2010.  I would say it punched more than floated.  Sort of just plowed through it, slightly under the surface.  Tips dove a bit.  MR tips were up and out.  Again, probably user, not ski, maybe different conditions Alta v. WinterPark on a wet snow day, maybe softer tip in the MR.  I understand that logically a wider waisted ski ought to float better, and I would think even more so in drier snow, but it didn't for me in the comparison made on the particular days and locales.     

post #8 of 12

Think it might have something to do with size..........  I'm 92 kgs (say 200lbs) and found enough float on the 101mm Agros @ 180cm (non-rockered) in a metre (3') of fresh at Northstar and Jackson Hole this year.  I can rail the Agros on hardpack, but if I want hard snow performance I'll take out my Stoeckli Laser SX instead.  SJ liked the Agros as a quiver of one for Tahoe last year although I'm sure some new toy has come along to usurp that opinion.  And by comparison, the 101 mm Agros @ 180 cm has far more float than my Legend 8800s at 188cm as well as being far more willing to turn.

post #9 of 12

Skied The One on some serious ice this past Saturday and was absolutely floored by how well it held and could carve on ice.  It just wasn't right - a rockered 98mm ski shouldn't be able to do what The One can.  Too bad that demo day wasn't a couple days later - we're getting slammed in Colorado.  I skied waist deep pow today.

 

I've never been really "wowed" by the latest incarnations of the Atlas or Argos.  They're good skis, but they didn't feel like "special" skis.  The One really impressed me though.

post #10 of 12
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Skied The One on some serious ice this past Saturday and was absolutely floored by how well it held and could carve on ice.  It just wasn't right - a rockered 98mm ski shouldn't be able to do what The One can.  Too bad that demo day wasn't a couple days later - we're getting slammed in Colorado.  I skied waist deep pow today.

 

I've never been really "wowed" by the latest incarnations of the Atlas or Argos.  They're good skis, but they didn't feel like "special" skis.  The One really impressed me though.



I think the Atlas and Argos are a bit too stiff.  The Answer had too little running surface to be very decent on hard snow. The One really is good for what it is on hard snow, and is even more fun on soft snow. It reminds me of the new Dynastar Huge, but narrower and more nimble: the ski I wish the Slicer was!  

post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by jbalmer View Post

So I'm looking at the Blizzard Titan Atlas, Answer and The One. I have skied the Atlas but not the other two. How do the Answer and The One compare to the Atlas? I liked the stability of the Atlas and it handled large turns in powder well, but the float wasn't great. How much carving stability would I lose going to the Answer or The One? Are they even comparable to the Atlas?



That is likely due to the stiffness of the ski. I skied the Atlas in 180cm and 187cm last year, and both just felt stiff and planky for me, but I am a lightweight.  They didn't want to stay on top of the snow as well as most of what I have skied in that width range. I really think the Atlas is a crud blaster, not a soft snow floaty-type of ski.  If you are looking for that, the softer One is a better bet, as is the Answer.  The Answer isn't versatile though: I have tried to ski it in choppy snow and bumps, with little success.  If you are looking for a pure big-turn, big-mountain ski, then the Answer may be your best bet. 

 

I personally like softer skis as the skis become wider.  Really stiff, wide skis just don't make alot of sense: if I wanted a hard snow ski that was great on ice, why would I look at a ski 95mm+ in width?  They don't follow terrain well and tend to dive more than softer variants (not that I am a fan of noodle skis, either). Something like an Elan Olympus or Dynastar Huge, with 2 layers of metal but still a fairly thin profile, soft tip, and moderate flex, seem to be a better bet for versatility in soft snow. The Huge, with camber underfoot and small tip and tail rocker, is more nimble than the old ski, and still beefier than it's cousin, the S7.  It might be worth looking into. 

post #12 of 12
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Thanks all for your input. I've decided to go with the Atlas. I know I like the ski and the float wasn't horrible, especially when you get going good and fast. It is also a great front side ski and I know I won't sacrifice that for the occasional powder day, where they are still serviceable.

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