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Choosing ski frustration (ARGHHHH)

post #1 of 14
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Hi!

 

This is my first post but certainly not the first time I've visited the site. I am looking for some skis(duh) but I'm getting more and more frustrated with browsing ebay/checking reviews and bottling it. I've bid on a few different sets that seemed to fit the bill so i'm asking advice on several fronts.

 

Which ski?

Which size?

How much should I pay?

 

I'm 5'10 180lb. I've skied 2 weeks every year since I was 11 and I'm 21 now. I took to it very naturally and had some very good tuition. I would class myself as a good intermediate aggressive skier. However, I love skiing on piste(any condition) and on moguls(bumps? sorry i'm new to the lingo) but i'm relatively inexperienced at powder skiing. I'm looking for the holy grail of budget skis, the "all mountain ski". From what I've read this seems to mean a million different things to different people.

 

The reason i'm new to the lingo and have relatively little knowledge of brands, performance, what to look for, is that I've never bought a ski before in my life. I've always had a chat with the rental guy at whatever resort I'm in and he's given me a ski from the higher end packages. I've never really taken note of which ski I've had(sorry i'm really not helping you out here am I).

 

I don't want a ski thats really hard work but I want some exciting speed for someone of my level. I will happily ski anywhere on piste and I would like to crack skiing off piste in a little powder, but I really don't want to lose edge grip on hard snow/ice. I'm off to the three valleys in France in February so you could take this as an indication of the kind of snow I usually ski. I'm certainly not the guy who wants to look flash(as you can probably tell by the fact I just take what I'm given every year), and I want a ski to last me a few years so nothing too old. I'm looking for a relatively new second hand ski as I'm trying to stick to a budget oof about £250.

 

I'm sorry my spiel is a little higgeldy piggeldy but I dont want to leave anything out and get slated for doing so.

Help?

 

Oh! I bid on a set of Volk AC3's and K2 Apache Raiders and a set of Recons all in 170cm.

 

Any advice would help BIG TIME

 

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post #3 of 14

Atomic Smoke Ti?

post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the reply. I'll check out the fischers and I've already been looking at the nomad's so thanks for the confirmation. Is the blackeye too much ski for me? I can probably stretch a bit further for the blackeye's if i find a good deal.

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You could do the Blackeye, but idk how close to your budget they're gonna be.  The Blackeye is very similar to the Smoke, just made for a bit more advanced skier.  Very importantly though, I mentioned the Smoke TI, not just the Smokes.  Are you talking about a Blackeye or a Blackeye TI?

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Any significant diff between the 2010 Heat 76 and the 2009 Cool Heat?

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Originally Posted by jc-ski View Post


Any significant diff between the 2010 Heat 76 and the 2009 Cool Heat?



 The Cool Heat has a bit less sidecut and longer sizing. I think it's at levelnine for $360. 

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You could do the Blackeye, but idk how close to your budget they're gonna be.  The Blackeye is very similar to the Smoke, just made for a bit more advanced skier.  Very importantly though, I mentioned the Smoke TI, not just the Smokes.  Are you talking about a Blackeye or a Blackeye TI?






The ti's any idea on length for my height weight ability?
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Originally Posted by eastskier44 View Post

You could do the Blackeye, but idk how close to your budget they're gonna be.  The Blackeye is very similar to the Smoke, just made for a bit more advanced skier.  Very importantly though, I mentioned the Smoke TI, not just the Smokes.  Are you talking about a Blackeye or a Blackeye TI?



Blackeye Ti is the one I'm looking at. Is this the better one? Anyone know anywhere I can get a good deal in the UK? I keep hoping on ebay. There was a set of blackeye Ti's that went for £270 I probably should have done it as they were in great condition. Is 170 the right size for me in this kind of ski?

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The blackeye ti' are the ones i've been looking at. A pair went for £270 on ebay, i probably should have done it but I wasn't sure if this is the right size for me. Any advice? 170 seems about right but I've never even checked the length of my skis in cm. Just over my chin if I remember rightly.

post #11 of 14

Welcome. Assuming you're gonna be skiing in Europe, the Fischers (if you enjoy a lighter, livelier feel) will be great on piste, not my choice for venturing off. For more mixed conditions, a Dynastar Sultan 85 (damper, smoother, higher speed limit) would fit the bill. Blackeye Ti's are excellent skis, and would work well on piste, but not aimed at soft snow or bumps, and probably violates your notion of not wanting a ski that's "hard work." A Rossignol Avenger Carbon or an Elan 82 Ti would also be nice mixed use skis for you. As far as length, 168 for Elans, 170-175 for Fischers and Rossis, 172 for Dynastars. Good luck. 

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Is that the Elan Magfire 82 Ti? and are these all 2010 skis?

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Yep, Magfire 82 Ti. And every ski I mentioned there is unchanged from last season, so you can get the 2010's if you wish. Some haven't changed in longer than that, actually.

post #14 of 14

If you wanna get better, your ski will have to be harder to ski than say a beginner/ intermediate ski.  If not, then go without the Ti.  As far as length goes, you could go with either the 164 or the 171.  I would say get the 171, but if you like to keep the turns short and appreciate a quicker more nimble ski, get the 164.

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